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	<title>Comments on: The Six Sun Sins</title>
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	<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/</link>
	<description>If you have nothing bad to say, say nothing.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jod Rohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>Jod Rohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani,

I'm curious what you think of our recent announcements regarding charging big bucks for typing "svn copy" to make a tag. It's brilliant, better than any RedBoss, I mean JHat, I mean RedHat/JBoss business model! I think you should make an insightful post about it.

Cheers,
--Jod Rohnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hani,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious what you think of our recent announcements regarding charging big bucks for typing &#8220;svn copy&#8221; to make a tag. It&#8217;s brilliant, better than any RedBoss, I mean JHat, I mean RedHat/JBoss business model! I think you should make an insightful post about it.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
&#8211;Jod Rohnson</p>
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		<title>By: Two devs one keyboard</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8915</link>
		<dc:creator>Two devs one keyboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed

The caveman invented Java.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ed</p>
<p>The caveman invented Java.</p>
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		<title>By: Pingoo</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8914</link>
		<dc:creator>Pingoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you've overlooked why Sun wanted to open source their code. It wasn't just to be cool. Because of the Sun licences it is not possible to put the dependencies in public repositories for instance, for many developers using systems like Ivy or Maven this means lots of manual work installing the jars to a local repo, manually managing transitive dependencies, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve overlooked why Sun wanted to open source their code. It wasn&#8217;t just to be cool. Because of the Sun licences it is not possible to put the dependencies in public repositories for instance, for many developers using systems like Ivy or Maven this means lots of manual work installing the jars to a local repo, manually managing transitive dependencies, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: mjb</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8912</link>
		<dc:creator>mjb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know larry if you want to prove YOU are telling the truth, (which I admit seems increasingly likely given the lack of posting), just release a press release on formicary. He was your CTO afterall. Then link to that PR here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know larry if you want to prove YOU are telling the truth, (which I admit seems increasingly likely given the lack of posting), just release a press release on formicary. He was your CTO afterall. Then link to that PR here.</p>
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		<title>By: Games Josling</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8910</link>
		<dc:creator>Games Josling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heheheheh. I invented Java. Hehehhe. Heheheheh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heheheheh. I invented Java. Hehehhe. Heheheheh.</p>
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		<title>By: mebigfatguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8903</link>
		<dc:creator>mebigfatguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be 'Cold Carl'.   Last one out, please turn off the lights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be &#8216;Cold Carl&#8217;.   Last one out, please turn off the lights</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8887</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were afraid that this would happen. I’ve posted previously. Hani died over four months ago in an auto accident when his car rolled-over. Unfortunately, a co-worker, Carl, had Hani’s password to the bileblog and continues to post under Hani’s name. As a manager at Formicary this was brought to my attention and Carl has recently been “let go”. As you can tell, this blog post doesn’t reflect the cleverness that Hani possessed before his death. We are currently working with jroller to terminate access to this blog and any future mention of our company.

Please send your condolences to formicary.net’s european or us offices. Your messages will be forwarded to his family.

Regards,

Larry Marshall
Sr Manager
Formicary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were afraid that this would happen. I’ve posted previously. Hani died over four months ago in an auto accident when his car rolled-over. Unfortunately, a co-worker, Carl, had Hani’s password to the bileblog and continues to post under Hani’s name. As a manager at Formicary this was brought to my attention and Carl has recently been “let go”. As you can tell, this blog post doesn’t reflect the cleverness that Hani possessed before his death. We are currently working with jroller to terminate access to this blog and any future mention of our company.</p>
<p>Please send your condolences to formicary.net’s european or us offices. Your messages will be forwarded to his family.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Larry Marshall<br />
Sr Manager<br />
Formicary</p>
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		<title>By: Knochen</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8884</link>
		<dc:creator>Knochen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All java Gurus!

 I get java exception! help me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All java Gurus!</p>
<p> I get java exception! help me.</p>
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		<title>By: bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8866</link>
		<dc:creator>bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to bile about testng plz.
Suppose you're invoking testng from eclipse.
Suppose you're debugging
Suppose you're break'd at a breakpoint
Suppose you run said test again, either on purpose or whatnot.
Why oh why must testng lag me the fuck out for 5 hours before telling me that, sorry dave, i cannot do that ;
org.testng.TestNGException: 
    Cannot establish connection: 127.0.0.1:3226
motherfucker. pos too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to bile about testng plz.<br />
Suppose you&#8217;re invoking testng from eclipse.<br />
Suppose you&#8217;re debugging<br />
Suppose you&#8217;re break&#8217;d at a breakpoint<br />
Suppose you run said test again, either on purpose or whatnot.<br />
Why oh why must testng lag me the fuck out for 5 hours before telling me that, sorry dave, i cannot do that ;<br />
org.testng.TestNGException:<br />
    Cannot establish connection: 127.0.0.1:3226<br />
motherfucker. pos too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mug Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8854</link>
		<dc:creator>Mug Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere within Sun is a vague recollection of  the early UNIX, of it's elegance and beauty.  They are still in shock from this and flounder about trying to recreate the freshness, the simplicity, the purity of 7th Edition UNIX.

There is an urge in Sun to renunciate every other technology and API and return to the 7th.  They have problems expressing this hence their marketing and ponytails.  

They deserve credit for trying, despite the endless turds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere within Sun is a vague recollection of  the early UNIX, of it&#8217;s elegance and beauty.  They are still in shock from this and flounder about trying to recreate the freshness, the simplicity, the purity of 7th Edition UNIX.</p>
<p>There is an urge in Sun to renunciate every other technology and API and return to the 7th.  They have problems expressing this hence their marketing and ponytails.  </p>
<p>They deserve credit for trying, despite the endless turds.</p>
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		<title>By: Suni Haleiman</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8822</link>
		<dc:creator>Suni Haleiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?? Hani is not dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?? Hani is not dead?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas dooley</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8778</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree w/ #1, not really sure what u mean by the other 5 :)...

my answer to the first sin is to compete with Sun head-on and make them earn something for their R&#38;D in the form of a functioning business model, i mean they have no competitive threat to push them in another direction.  So, I would take all of their good stuff, and build an appliance with best practices for only use-case scenarios that make money, and lo-and-behold, they have made everything open source, so here it is:

take Linux (not openSolaris), deploy Glassfish v.2 with MySQL on top of openSPARC with the 5120:

http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t5120/

maybe throw-in openStorage with the 4500:

http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/

and cut-out Java over-head and all other sorts of non-sense that make them fundamentally unprofitable, and build-your-own Sun Microsystems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree w/ #1, not really sure what u mean by the other 5 :)&#8230;</p>
<p>my answer to the first sin is to compete with Sun head-on and make them earn something for their R&amp;D in the form of a functioning business model, i mean they have no competitive threat to push them in another direction.  So, I would take all of their good stuff, and build an appliance with best practices for only use-case scenarios that make money, and lo-and-behold, they have made everything open source, so here it is:</p>
<p>take Linux (not openSolaris), deploy Glassfish v.2 with MySQL on top of openSPARC with the 5120:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t5120/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t5120/</a></p>
<p>maybe throw-in openStorage with the 4500:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/</a></p>
<p>and cut-out Java over-head and all other sorts of non-sense that make them fundamentally unprofitable, and build-your-own Sun Microsystems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8773</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam, did the caveman invent the car then?

Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam, did the caveman invent the car then?</p>
<p>Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8755</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 05:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed that there are no adjectives for limited deployment capabilities of 6.10.

.V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed that there are no adjectives for limited deployment capabilities of 6.10.</p>
<p>.V</p>
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		<title>By: Hannibal</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8754</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Oracle and IBM partake the creamy knowledge of Sun.....purrrrrr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Oracle and IBM partake the creamy knowledge of Sun&#8230;..purrrrrr</p>
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		<title>By: hot4(pony)tail</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8753</link>
		<dc:creator>hot4(pony)tail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan's appendage turns me on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan&#8217;s appendage turns me on.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Gore</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8752</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I invented internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I invented internet!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8751</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Bray invented XML like I invented the fucking atom bomb.  XML is a subset of SGML which came from GML which was invented by IBM in the 60's.  It's like these idiots who think that Tim Berners-Lee/CERN invented the internet.  They took a bunch of shit that other people invented and put a piece of glue between it.  They should get credit for that but 99% of the work was from DARPA and IBM -- not CERN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Bray invented XML like I invented the fucking atom bomb.  XML is a subset of SGML which came from GML which was invented by IBM in the 60&#8217;s.  It&#8217;s like these idiots who think that Tim Berners-Lee/CERN invented the internet.  They took a bunch of shit that other people invented and put a piece of glue between it.  They should get credit for that but 99% of the work was from DARPA and IBM &#8212; not CERN.</p>
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		<title>By: puke</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>puke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i need to puke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need to puke</p>
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		<title>By: Super Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/the-six-sun-sins/#comment-8749</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well um.. FOURTH !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well um.. FOURTH !</p>
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