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		<title>By: basturd</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>basturd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, it happened</description>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And furthermore, I get real excited when dealing with a company who&#039;s answer to the fact that their software doesn&#039;t work is to tell me to buy a support contract that is as fucking expensive as a god damned fucking license for a product that already is KNOWN to fucking work.

Yeah dick fucks. I&#039;m gonna drop my pants, bend over, and pray that you DO ram some giant black stick into my ass and pray that maybe you&#039;ll give the ol&#039; reach around....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And furthermore, I get real excited when dealing with a company who&#8217;s answer to the fact that their software doesn&#8217;t work is to tell me to buy a support contract that is as fucking expensive as a god damned fucking license for a product that already is KNOWN to fucking work.</p>
<p>Yeah dick fucks. I&#8217;m gonna drop my pants, bend over, and pray that you DO ram some giant black stick into my ass and pray that maybe you&#8217;ll give the ol&#8217; reach around&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani, thank you so much for this article. God, and to think I even considered for one moment doing any sort of business at all with the donkey dick licking shit-for-brains dicks at illogicblaze makes me as violentally ill to my stomach as a japanese porn actress after a long bukkake session.

Three weeks wasted on trying to get activemq to work only to realize the pile of monkey shit app doesn&#039;t remove dead clients after the tcp connection is broken.

You know, transactional sessions, persistent messaging, fault tolerant brokers all matter a whole-boat-fuck-load of nothing when the broker gladly continues to deliver messages from a queue to clients that aren&#039;t even fucking connected anymore. Way for &quot;deliver-once-and-only-once&quot; jms compliance you ass fuck terd for brain 2&quot; dick fuck mother fuckers.

I hate every single on of you pieces of shit and would love to break your 3&quot; necks after kicking in logic blaze&#039;s teeth and pissing and shitting down its throat.

Thanks for wasting 3 weeks of my life fuck offs. Burn in hell, please. do the world a favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hani, thank you so much for this article. God, and to think I even considered for one moment doing any sort of business at all with the donkey dick licking shit-for-brains dicks at illogicblaze makes me as violentally ill to my stomach as a japanese porn actress after a long bukkake session.</p>
<p>Three weeks wasted on trying to get activemq to work only to realize the pile of monkey shit app doesn&#8217;t remove dead clients after the tcp connection is broken.</p>
<p>You know, transactional sessions, persistent messaging, fault tolerant brokers all matter a whole-boat-fuck-load of nothing when the broker gladly continues to deliver messages from a queue to clients that aren&#8217;t even fucking connected anymore. Way for &#8220;deliver-once-and-only-once&#8221; jms compliance you ass fuck terd for brain 2&#8243; dick fuck mother fuckers.</p>
<p>I hate every single on of you pieces of shit and would love to break your 3&#8243; necks after kicking in logic blaze&#8217;s teeth and pissing and shitting down its throat.</p>
<p>Thanks for wasting 3 weeks of my life fuck offs. Burn in hell, please. do the world a favor.</p>
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		<title>By: java guru</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>java guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>terracotta couldn&#039;t sell their products so they have to give it away. have you seen any clients on their site yet? no one will buy it cuz it don&#039;t work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terracotta couldn&#8217;t sell their products so they have to give it away. have you seen any clients on their site yet? no one will buy it cuz it don&#8217;t work</p>
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		<title>By: Columbus</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Columbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani, you are getting slack. You should call Gluecode Goocode, Virtuas Virtu-ass and Mergere Mergerear. Does anyone know their ticker symbols? Got some cash to spend on shares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hani, you are getting slack. You should call Gluecode Goocode, Virtuas Virtu-ass and Mergere Mergerear. Does anyone know their ticker symbols? Got some cash to spend on shares.</p>
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		<title>By: maven user</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>maven user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mergere is a great example of all this. 

Since they &quot;became a company&quot;, the maven people have accomplished almost nothing. Archiva is non-existent, continuum is there but dead in the water and the eclipse plugin is completely lame compared to what exists for NetBeans (a truly HORRIBLE IDE).

Now that they&#039;ve gone completely insular it&#039;s almost impossible to see any progress. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mergere is a great example of all this. </p>
<p>Since they &#8220;became a company&#8221;, the maven people have accomplished almost nothing. Archiva is non-existent, continuum is there but dead in the water and the eclipse plugin is completely lame compared to what exists for NetBeans (a truly HORRIBLE IDE).</p>
<p>Now that they&#8217;ve gone completely insular it&#8217;s almost impossible to see any progress. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: i eat babies</title>
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		<dc:creator>i eat babies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only party I went to was the Geronimo one at JavaOne.  The only girls there were the waitresses.</description>
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		<title>By: Uncle Wiggly</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Wiggly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweatshop ... hmmm.  

I just interviewed with a company here in the US that has a 45-hour minimum week.  No overtime pay, of course.  The important thing is that most developers to whom I mention this say things like &#039;Well, sure.&#039;  or &#039;Like always.&#039;  Sometimes if I prolong the discussion I hear that &#039;we are professionals - it isnt a 9-to-5 job !&#039;.

Right - professionals.  Because it is well known that real professionals - doctors and lawyers -regularly work unpaid hours for their clients. 

(If you&#039;re a software developer, that was sarcasm.  Real professionals do not give away free work.)

Anyway, we all know the true story at that US company I mentioned.  The real work week is 50-60 hours with random peaks due to crises thrown in by the management exploiting their spineless teams.  Right ?  Yeah, you know it.

There are all kinds of sweatshops ... one of the emerging chestbeater habits seems to be the &#039;non-sleeper&#039; behavior - you know, the lead who sends the team email at 12:45 AM and then is emailing the team for status again at 5:15 the next morning.  The kind of dick who pretends that 7AM is a good time for the team standup ... because the hours for 6 to 9 PM are more than ample to attend to the needs of your family and your personal health.

Don&#039;t get me wrong; I like the software development business in general.  But the work hours, which have always been suspect, seem to me to be getting worse in the last couple of years.  Does that have anything to do with the open sores ethic of giving away your work ?  

Probably not, but it may be worth considering that the guy doing this is not in fact a professional at all, but a naive young male working as hard as he possibly can - without pay - to make your job and his a clerical dead end ... because sometimes people will Look At Him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweatshop &#8230; hmmm.  </p>
<p>I just interviewed with a company here in the US that has a 45-hour minimum week.  No overtime pay, of course.  The important thing is that most developers to whom I mention this say things like &#8216;Well, sure.&#8217;  or &#8216;Like always.&#8217;  Sometimes if I prolong the discussion I hear that &#8216;we are professionals &#8211; it isnt a 9-to-5 job !&#8217;.</p>
<p>Right &#8211; professionals.  Because it is well known that real professionals &#8211; doctors and lawyers -regularly work unpaid hours for their clients. </p>
<p>(If you&#8217;re a software developer, that was sarcasm.  Real professionals do not give away free work.)</p>
<p>Anyway, we all know the true story at that US company I mentioned.  The real work week is 50-60 hours with random peaks due to crises thrown in by the management exploiting their spineless teams.  Right ?  Yeah, you know it.</p>
<p>There are all kinds of sweatshops &#8230; one of the emerging chestbeater habits seems to be the &#8216;non-sleeper&#8217; behavior &#8211; you know, the lead who sends the team email at 12:45 AM and then is emailing the team for status again at 5:15 the next morning.  The kind of dick who pretends that 7AM is a good time for the team standup &#8230; because the hours for 6 to 9 PM are more than ample to attend to the needs of your family and your personal health.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I like the software development business in general.  But the work hours, which have always been suspect, seem to me to be getting worse in the last couple of years.  Does that have anything to do with the open sores ethic of giving away your work ?  </p>
<p>Probably not, but it may be worth considering that the guy doing this is not in fact a professional at all, but a naive young male working as hard as he possibly can &#8211; without pay &#8211; to make your job and his a clerical dead end &#8230; because sometimes people will Look At Him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mats Henricson</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mats Henricson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 10:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani, biting the hand that feeds IT. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: egor</title>
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		<dc:creator>egor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

All it is correct!  

Respectfully yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>All it is correct!  </p>
<p>Respectfully yours!</p>
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		<title>By: oh no jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>oh no jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jared:

hopefully, to laugh at (loudly) at other Filipinos (or perhaps this particular Filipino) and to dismiss other Filipinos accomplishments easily (&quot;scam&quot; is a little too harsh, don&#039;t you think?) IS an exception. and what is the true Philippine Open Source Culture? living and working in singapore? enlighten me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jared:</p>
<p>hopefully, to laugh at (loudly) at other Filipinos (or perhaps this particular Filipino) and to dismiss other Filipinos accomplishments easily (&#8220;scam&#8221; is a little too harsh, don&#8217;t you think?) IS an exception. and what is the true Philippine Open Source Culture? living and working in singapore? enlighten me..</p>
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		<title>By: oh yes jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>oh yes jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding the sweatshop:

fact #1: basic salary of their employees is just average (compared to other software dev&#039;t companies in the philippines)

fact #2: all employees are REQUIRED to work AT LEAST 48 hours a week (note: no overtime pay here folks).  can&#039;t seem to think of any reason why they practice that, and they couldn&#039;t give any acceptable reason either.  

fact #3: given the amount of money winston got from the gluecode sale, you&#039;d think that he could afford to get a more cozy office with nice furniture. i&#039;ve seen their office, and it could be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding the sweatshop:</p>
<p>fact #1: basic salary of their employees is just average (compared to other software dev&#8217;t companies in the philippines)</p>
<p>fact #2: all employees are REQUIRED to work AT LEAST 48 hours a week (note: no overtime pay here folks).  can&#8217;t seem to think of any reason why they practice that, and they couldn&#8217;t give any acceptable reason either.  </p>
<p>fact #3: given the amount of money winston got from the gluecode sale, you&#8217;d think that he could afford to get a more cozy office with nice furniture. i&#8217;ve seen their office, and it could be better.</p>
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		<title>By: satan</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2006/12/open-sores-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>satan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think they&#039;ve got a legal gag on Raible which is why he is not responding here the way he usually does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think they&#8217;ve got a legal gag on Raible which is why he is not responding here the way he usually does?</p>
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		<title>By: Why oh why Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why oh why Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jared my sweet Jared...

&quot;the rest of the talented Filipino Java Developers&quot;

You seem to have a hard-on attacking everything Winston is associated with. Hmm, I wonder why. I guess the Filipino sweatshop mentioned in the above article doesn&#039;t have anyone of worth to the open-source scene? Condemning the employees because of the boss? Yeah sure, you know everything don&#039;t you oh great all-knowing one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jared my sweet Jared&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;the rest of the talented Filipino Java Developers&#8221;</p>
<p>You seem to have a hard-on attacking everything Winston is associated with. Hmm, I wonder why. I guess the Filipino sweatshop mentioned in the above article doesn&#8217;t have anyone of worth to the open-source scene? Condemning the employees because of the boss? Yeah sure, you know everything don&#8217;t you oh great all-knowing one?</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Entry Hani! I can&#039;t keep from laughing out loud. But anyway I would like to make it clear to everyone(readers and Java developers) in order to prevent misconception about the Philippines, especially in the Open Sores scene that Gluecode may be generalized with the rest us is a wrong assumption. In fact, this &quot;scam&quot; is an exception, not the rule and has nothing to do with the rest of the talented Filipino Java Developers contributing to the real open source initiatives. This is in defense of the true Philippine Open Source Culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Entry Hani! I can&#8217;t keep from laughing out loud. But anyway I would like to make it clear to everyone(readers and Java developers) in order to prevent misconception about the Philippines, especially in the Open Sores scene that Gluecode may be generalized with the rest us is a wrong assumption. In fact, this &#8220;scam&#8221; is an exception, not the rule and has nothing to do with the rest of the talented Filipino Java Developers contributing to the real open source initiatives. This is in defense of the true Philippine Open Source Culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Stallman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Stallman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 07:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hanni, if these people would abandon their infidel open sores beliefs and praise free software then we could fight the evil capitalists with the GPL.

GPL Akbar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanni, if these people would abandon their infidel open sores beliefs and praise free software then we could fight the evil capitalists with the GPL.</p>
<p>GPL Akbar!</p>
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		<title>By: Hani's Hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hani's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Bank of America, GE, CNET, Boise Cascade and Northrop Grumman approve of you giving out their names? I don&#039;t see their names on the web site. What if those customers saw that reply? Funny thing with open source (and yes, I know plenty about it) is customers always refuse to allow their names to be used, cos they&#039;re just plain embrassed to be associated with open sores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Bank of America, GE, CNET, Boise Cascade and Northrop Grumman approve of you giving out their names? I don&#8217;t see their names on the web site. What if those customers saw that reply? Funny thing with open source (and yes, I know plenty about it) is customers always refuse to allow their names to be used, cos they&#8217;re just plain embrassed to be associated with open sores.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kuhnert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Kuhnert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I&#039;ve been to any parties or know very much about what good business/marketing is - but I have worked with the Virtuas guys on a couple gigs and have only seen good things.

They&#039;ve known when to stfu and get things done, when to ask questions - and never done any weird scammy stuff with clients even when other consultants were attempting to do it left and right. (such as one instance where a jsf guy tried to get me to recommend total bs to a client manager in order to get himself more hours on the project...No I didn&#039;t recommend whatever he was selling and really just wanted to punch him in the face.)

I guess you could say I&#039;m just trying to protect people that I&#039;ve got some kind of business relationship with, but what&#039;s right is right...The Virtuas guys are the good kind of devs.(not saying they are all l33t hax0rz, just that I&#039;ve never seen any of them bs&#039;ing themselves/clients/anyone else ...so at least they&#039;re honest )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve been to any parties or know very much about what good business/marketing is &#8211; but I have worked with the Virtuas guys on a couple gigs and have only seen good things.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve known when to stfu and get things done, when to ask questions &#8211; and never done any weird scammy stuff with clients even when other consultants were attempting to do it left and right. (such as one instance where a jsf guy tried to get me to recommend total bs to a client manager in order to get himself more hours on the project&#8230;No I didn&#8217;t recommend whatever he was selling and really just wanted to punch him in the face.)</p>
<p>I guess you could say I&#8217;m just trying to protect people that I&#8217;ve got some kind of business relationship with, but what&#8217;s right is right&#8230;The Virtuas guys are the good kind of devs.(not saying they are all l33t hax0rz, just that I&#8217;ve never seen any of them bs&#8217;ing themselves/clients/anyone else &#8230;so at least they&#8217;re honest )</p>
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		<title>By: Hani predictor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hani predictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hani says so bad things about them it means they have to be really really good !</description>
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		<title>By: Hani's Conscience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hani's Conscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go again, Hani. Go off on something that you understand about 10% of. Just for the record, there actually is and always was a business plan for Virtuas. Provide support and implementation services to organizations around open source middleware. Having core talent such as Raible, Dudney, Genender, Snyder and Goodwill gives companies confidence in using &quot;been there, done that&quot; people. Maybe people like you don&#039;t get it, but Bank of America, GE, CNET, Boise Cascade and Northrop Grumman do. Good thing they are not marketing to you. Keep up the bad journalism. CBS would be proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go again, Hani. Go off on something that you understand about 10% of. Just for the record, there actually is and always was a business plan for Virtuas. Provide support and implementation services to organizations around open source middleware. Having core talent such as Raible, Dudney, Genender, Snyder and Goodwill gives companies confidence in using &#8220;been there, done that&#8221; people. Maybe people like you don&#8217;t get it, but Bank of America, GE, CNET, Boise Cascade and Northrop Grumman do. Good thing they are not marketing to you. Keep up the bad journalism. CBS would be proud.</p>
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