Comments on: Please, no more logging!

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Carsten’s Blog » Blog Archive » Maven, Nexus … — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:59:35 +0000

[...] these two are not for me – if you like looking at meaningless logs and masturbate on them, feel free to give it a [...]

By: Chuggid

Chuggid — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:03:47 +0000

http://www.qos.ch/pipermail/logback-user/2006-August/000009.html

By: Simon

Simon — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:29:56 +0000

Hani, congratulations!

Btw, if you have issues with long, chatty messages on stdout and just got married…..mate then you’re in for a surprise!

Cheers,

Simon

By: Dhanji

Dhanji — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:00:46 +0000

I dont know logbag has some interesting ideas like usage-sequence (grouped) logging. log4j is by no means fully evolved. I think it might make more sense for people to develop appenders to log4j rather than replacements–so thats a valid point.

As for success messages nobody ever said what DEBUG means…oh wait…let the Jboss bashing continue!!

By: prope//er

prope//er — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:48:46 +0000

So, what do we have as a result? We have JBoss, with 6-7 pages of output when things go well, and a (not very) abridged version of War and Peace when they (usually) do not.

–> Dude, you should start writing for the Onion. You are good.

By: Jesus M. Rodriguez

Jesus M. Rodriguez — Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:50:35 +0000

Hani you ROCK! I love reading your blog. It’s right on target :)

Congrats on the wedding.

By: Rick "Schizzle My Nizzle" Hightower

Rick "Schizzle My Nizzle" Hightower — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:08:36 +0000

15:53:16,565 INFO [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter ‘org.apache.myfaces.PRETTY_HTML’ found, using default value true
15:53:16,565 INFO [MyfacesConfig] No context init parameter ‘org.apache.myfaces.ALLOW_JAVASCRIPT’ found, using default value true
15:53:16,565 INFO [RickHightower] I like writing about losing weight on my blog because I know you all care
15:53:16,565 INFO [RickHightower] JSF, Spring, Hibernate, JSF, Spring, Hibernate
15:53:16,565 INFO [RickHightower] I izz the shizzle mutha f**ka
15:53:16,565 INFO [RickHightower] nuff sed

By: skorsky

skorsky — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:34:23 +0000

I am not sure what G. King and Fleury did to deserve this much wrath/bile by you. King gave the Java community an almost ideal persistence tool, which was instrumental in defining EJB3. Fleury gave us an umbrealla organization where these wonderful projects can live, and continue to innovate, without which, we probably would not have JBoss Seam. It seems you are biling just for biling’s sake sometimes… Certain amount of irreverence is good, but you gotta give credit where credit’s due, and think of scenarios where these people/projects would NOT be around.

Oh about logging: In general Unix/Java people love logging, because WE HATE DEBUGGERS.

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Kernel/linus-im-a-bastard-speech.html

(Note: I am not defending printing out unnecessary crud under INFO of course, simply describing a general tendency).

I wish you a happy and long lasting marriage.

By: Biggus Dickus

Biggus Dickus — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:19:32 +0000

Awwwww! Hani you jilted me. Well at least let us know if she stops letting you fuck her now you’re married. I’m sure you’ll soon have the solution in hand…

Congrats you dirty turdburglar.

By: SabaK

SabaK — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:39:24 +0000

Congrats on the marriage. Maybe blog something about that, I am sure there are quite a few people here that are curious.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:19:16 +0000

INFO: I read this blog [September 02, 2006 at 12:18 GMT]

By: Cameron Purdy

Cameron Purdy — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:14:36 +0000

You can reduce the output:

obie-fernandezs-computer:~/twix obie$ server > /dev/null

By: Marc Fleury

Marc Fleury — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 04:17:01 +0000

obie-fernandezs-computer:~/twix obie$ server
=> Booting WEBrick…
=> Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000
=> Ctrl-C to shutdown server; call with –help for options
[2006-08-29 12:12:01] INFO WEBrick 1.3.1
[2006-08-29 12:12:01] INFO ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24)

Go shove your Ruby glowstick somehere Obie Wan Kenobi

By: pcomeau

pcomeau — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:21:25 +0000

fennix…

Sure I turn the levels up for the crap I write… but I still don’t neeed hibernate and spring, along with tomcat, telling me everytime they take a dump.

To explain I’m a parent of two.. I’ve been through the whole “yeah honey you went to the potty, now here’s your sticker” system… I don’t need my f’n frameworks to behave the same way. All I need to know is when they shat on the floor.

By: LogTheShitOut

LogTheShitOut — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:18:54 +0000

obie-fernandezs-computer:~/twix obie$ server
=> Booting WEBrick...
=> Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000
=> Ctrl-C to shutdown server; call with --help for options
[2006-08-29 12:12:01] INFO WEBrick 1.3.1
[2006-08-29 12:12:01] INFO ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i686-darwin8.6.1]
[2006-08-29 12:12:02] INFO WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=8519 port=3000

‘Nuff said.

Right. Obie and rails get an “Ass Hat” for free!!!

By: Horny Clown

Horny Clown — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:10:20 +0000

Woohoo! you got hitched! Welcome to the suckers club! Anyway, we can all expect the bile to get nastier now that you are guaranteed to have more problems in your life. Woohoo!

By: Uncle Wiggly

Uncle Wiggly — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:57:44 +0000

Well, now, this is just confusing. Why would anyone attack the logging industry in this great country of ours ? I’m just going to have to shake my head slowly like Ronnie Reagan and say : “There you go again.” in my condescending sad-amused voice.

The Clown President didn’t do much good for the country, it’s true, but at least we old folks can copy his head-wagging. That’s something.

The Wiggly One thinks that using exaggeratedly vehement obscenities to express one’s point of view just HAS to be a good idea. Criticism in this area is unjustified. We have to keep in mind that we are fighting a difficult war on terror, against a brutal and extremely impolite enemy. If logging and obscenity can help us win that war, it is our duty to use them … darn it.

oooo – well, that was a little racy there, wasn’t it ? I had better let my heart rate lower to normal … until next time, then, my fellow Americans !

By: Sean Corfield

Sean Corfield — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:49:05 +0000

This was what made me uneasy about JBoss the very first time I fired it up… Today I interviewed an operations guy and asked him about logging and he said that 95% of log output is garbage… I dread opening a log file these days :(

By: fenix

fenix — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:34:31 +0000

uhmm.. isnt that what logging is for?! Turn the logging level up for the package(s) you are bitching about and shut up..,

I used to enjoy your rants, but this is rediculous.

By: pcomeau

pcomeau — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:29:36 +0000

congrats on getting married…

Keep up the swearing…

and on stupid loggin:
Why Hibernate has to “Warn” me in the log it’s swtiching databases (when I fuckin told it too) is beyond me.