Comments on: WebWork 2, 2 years on

By: Eric Braymond

Eric Braymond — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:41:22 +0000

Baaaah! Baaaaaah!

Hi Paul,

I’m one of the three most important people in the universe, and I’d like to ackknowledge (baaaah!) that you are a genuys. Thx 4 being smart like me, and the 2 other guys.

Dick, let’s do lunch.
(p.s. you haven’t been returning my phone calls. Lemme just aim on you msn messenagr)

By: Paul Grahamsturbation

Paul Grahamsturbation — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:33:49 +0000

You wouldn’t have had any problems if webwork was built on lisp, by lispers, not the java dumb guys. Did you know I wrote a book on the subject? It’s so good OH OH OH! So Good!

whew. I also went to Harvard, did you know that? OH OH OH! Harvard! I’m such a fucking genyus(sp?!?!)

By: Beat me senseless

Beat me senseless — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:29:26 +0000

“Of course, being of the easily aroused variety, and an eternal optimist…”

easily aroused? Probably. Eternal optimist? HAHA!

By: pls grow up

pls grow up — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:59:19 +0000

>>since Craig McWawafoofooploppyhan has stolen>>

Comeon Hani,

You can bile on the guys skills or lack of.., but ridiculing a guys name is not very nice. Please grow up if you want your comments taken for real, tad bit atleast.

By: Anonymous Bastard

Anonymous Bastard — Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:51:00 +0000

What a load of ejaculatory fluids…

Hani, you admitted coming back to the scene of the crime. That would make you a suspect in the eyes of the Java Polis.

Instead of reviewing the same old projects, why not pick some new ones to throw you rectal expenditure at?

By: Don Fuckwit

Don Fuckwit — Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:45:50 +0000

It’s time to move onto sweatier underpants – http://framework.zend.com

By: Jesus

Jesus — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:55:28 +0000

These idiots don’t see that the quality of an open source product is judged by its documentation. They are more interested in playing with their shiny toys and tugging at their own genitalia for quick gratification. They are not interested in delivering a real product. I wish these half-ass open sores would just go away.

By: Bret

Bret — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:43:29 +0000

“No wonder the RoR fanboys are busy circlejerking themselves into an alternate state of being; almost anything else, even by pure accident, will be less painful and more enjoyable”

Hillarious!

By: nobody

nobody — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:57:54 +0000

well, the nice thing about webwork1 was the sheer simplicity – so that getting what you wanted done would never be a confusing or distracting experience… although I tend to want to use ww2 nowadays, I sorely miss the ‘feel’ of webwork 1…. which like some of Oberg’s other projects, seem to get lost once other people take over….

By: Corby Page

Corby Page — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:40:49 +0000

Holy crap, you must be a powerful man, Hani. If I read that right, you just gave Webwork a java.net style facial, and Patrick thanked you for it!

I shied away from Webwork for a while because I wasn’t sure how serious the developers were about it. But I finally picked it up last month, and had no problems getting everything up and running. The docs are inconsistent, but I didn’t run into the setup problems that you did (the Freemarker dependency took me by surprise, though).

The biggest problem I found was a JBoss-style inconsistency in the implementation of advertised features. The 2.2 release announcement included glowing descriptions of the support for JSTL and Java 5 generics, neither of which worked, period. The simplest test case had not been executed before release. JSTL was fixed in 2.2.1, and generics are scheduled for 2.2.2.

But it’s good stuff, and fun to develop with. You and Rickard will claim in 5 years that Webwork 1 is still the best, but we’ve got to move on…

By: Michael Jouravlev

Michael Jouravlev — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:35:21 +0000

Jason> You should buy the book! hahahaha….

I got one, I even started to read it. So much self-praise: love us, we are the best, WebWork rules. I could not find good old “Struts sucks” refrain yet, but found “Struts is no longer in development” remark. Either good or nothing about dead. In liew of WebWork 2 resurrection as Struts 2 I suggest a codename for it: Le Chuck. Muahaha!

By: Dick Stallman

Dick Stallman — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:29:17 +0000

It’s time to move on from dumbed down Java and incredibly brain dead Java frameworks into the 21st century.

Ruby on rails is for the professional who needs to get things done and not wank around with hand-holding IDEs and wizards.

By: Turdburgler

Turdburgler — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:23:12 +0000

Who the f*ck is Dennis Miller? Clearly hasn’t lived up to much if I’ve never heard of him

By: Adam Nisenbaum

Adam Nisenbaum — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:38:55 +0000

If one has log4j knowledge and really dislikes error messages from a library, one could raise the logger in question to fatal and not have any error, informational, debug or warn messages!

By: Jason Carreira

Jason Carreira — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:13:20 +0000

digitalsanctum,

Not sure if that was intentionally funny… Dennis Miller would be an example of someone with great potential not living up to it, at least for the last 5 years or so…

By: digitalsanctum

digitalsanctum — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:55:25 +0000

Execellent rant on what everyone agrees is a great framework not achieving it’s full potential. You rank right up there with Dennis Miller.

By: Philip

Philip — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:49:34 +0000

Ah, that would be my action. Sorry for not keeping those ‘funny’ docs (smell the sarcasm), since they were over six months old, and contained statements no longer true, I was so free to remove parts of it until someone gets the time to write new ones. Better no docs than bad ones, I guess.

By: pageup

pageup — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:16:58 +0000

“Especially the example in this section should be helpful to seasoned Java developers with previous experience in MVC frameworks” sadly only exists now in google’s cache (dated Feb. 8, 2006). Docs updated on Mar. 1 are no longer funny.

By: Dr. Confused

Dr. Confused — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:08:18 +0000

Hani,

What happened to your english? All polished (atleast the starting of the blog)

Did ya take english classes?

By: Philip

Philip — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:52:42 +0000

The documentation isn’t that bad, just rather poorly structured. We’ve been doing a lot of work improving it lately, but because of all the work and changes that went into 2.2, most of the docs are still under review. There is also the problem of developers vs. writers, and the typical wiki clutter. These are being addressed.

See you again in 2 years :)