Comments on: Servlet 2.5, the bad, the ugly, and the pointless http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless If you have nothing bad to say, say nothing. Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:51:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bile slut http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-750 bile slut Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:55:38 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-750 What the hell??!!??? its almost 1 month since this bile. When the fuck is the next one coming out? Hani, dont make me come over there and bitch slap you with my sagging boops... What the hell??!!??? its almost 1 month since this bile. When the fuck is the next one coming out? Hani, dont make me come over there and bitch slap you with my sagging boops…

]]> By: Howard Stern http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-749 Howard Stern Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:34:21 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-749 Now, now, let's all play NICE, my little friends ! Your Uncle Howard is all about happiness and defying The Man, as you know ... but his name is a valuable piece of intellectual property and a registered trademark. We should not throw it around without proper .. .compensation, n'est ce pas ? Hani IS 17 years old. After serving two years as a Jordanian fighter pilot, he fond that his hair was beginning to fall out, and he switched to a gig where deliberately baldness was cool every five years or so. You see, Jordan doesn't want bald fighter pilots, as they prefer 'the young look' for their ruthless military machine. (And who doesn't ?) (I think that's right - isn't it ? Anyone please feel free to correct me on any of these details.) I think we should all be able to sympathize with Hani and understand the effect of this experience. Someday we, too, may be balding teenagers (or, for you ladies out there, someday we, too, may be rejected Jordanian fighter pilots). It's a burden he's carried with the same kind of dignity that I, Howard Stern, have always shown in my own struggle for freedom of expression. If he occasionally shows a preoccupation with flatulence ... well, which of us has not ? Is an abiding interest in fecal matters and genitalia tuggging to be condemned out of hand, without understanding the man and his world ? I say 'Never' ! Now, now, let’s all play NICE, my little friends ! Your Uncle Howard is all about happiness and defying The Man, as you know … but his name is a valuable piece of intellectual property and a registered trademark. We should not throw it around without proper .. .compensation, n’est ce pas ?

Hani IS 17 years old. After serving two years as a Jordanian fighter pilot, he fond that his hair was beginning to fall out, and he switched to a gig where deliberately baldness was cool every five years or so. You see, Jordan doesn’t want bald fighter pilots, as they prefer ‘the young look’ for their ruthless military machine. (And who doesn’t ?)

(I think that’s right – isn’t it ? Anyone please feel free to correct me on any of these details.)

I think we should all be able to sympathize with Hani and understand the effect of this experience. Someday we, too, may be balding teenagers (or, for you ladies out there, someday we, too, may be rejected Jordanian fighter pilots). It’s a burden he’s carried with the same kind of dignity that I, Howard Stern, have always shown in my own struggle for freedom of expression. If he occasionally shows a preoccupation with flatulence … well, which of us has not ? Is an abiding interest in fecal matters and genitalia tuggging to be condemned out of hand, without understanding the man and his world ?

I say ‘Never’ !

]]> By: Dan Sanchez http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Dan Sanchez Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:21:48 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-748 Hmm, bile isn't strong enough or descriptive enough for these blog entries. I'm sure glad I don't actually know anyone like you, but you're proof that humunculi actually exist. Are you trying to be Howard Stern? I gather you're about 17 years old? Hmm, bile isn’t strong enough or descriptive enough for these blog entries. I’m sure glad I don’t actually know anyone like you, but you’re proof that humunculi actually exist. Are you trying to be Howard Stern? I gather you’re about 17 years old?

]]> By: tom.ridge http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-747 tom.ridge Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:55:00 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-747 You know what bothers me ? What bothers me is when I open Windows Explorer and it always opens up the 'My Documents' folder. Also, I never use that BS folder, but Windows tries to put things in there all the time. I don't like it. You know what bothers me ? What bothers me is when I open Windows Explorer and it always opens up the ‘My Documents’ folder. Also, I never use that BS folder, but Windows tries to put things in there all the time.

I don’t like it.

]]> By: Anonymous Bastard http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Anonymous Bastard Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:13:42 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-746 What on earth would be the purpose of a @Filter annotation, when Filter is already an interface (and a proper, not marker, interface)? What on earth would be the purpose of a @Filter annotation, when Filter is already an interface (and a proper, not marker, interface)?

]]> By: Dmitry http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-745 Dmitry Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:37:59 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-745 Agreed , that servlet annotations are poinless. But what is wrong in their new mapping scheme? Agreed , that servlet annotations are poinless.
But what is wrong in their new mapping scheme?

]]> By: eluzix http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-744 eluzix Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:36:50 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-744 As already written here, what about multipart support???? As already written here, what about multipart support????

]]> By: Rich http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-743 Rich Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:36:15 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-743 I must say I'm confused about the lack of login solution. I thought the fashion was to hand over login handling to the servlet container (j_security_check, etc.) which will pass the user onto the requested page. Where is the problem here? I sort of see the point about the user registering and you not being able to inform the servlet environment programmatically but isn't this 'correct' behaviour? After all, wouldn't you want to verify registrations to avoid abuse? As much as I love your blog, Hani, Jason has a point. We can justifiably use the traditional open sores response to complaint: "Seeing as you know so much, join in and do something about it." You are ideally placed to give Jason Hunter et al a playful kick in the hurty bits. I must say I’m confused about the lack of login solution. I thought the fashion was to hand over login handling to the servlet container (j_security_check, etc.) which will pass the user onto the requested page. Where is the problem here?

I sort of see the point about the user registering and you not being able to inform the servlet environment programmatically but isn’t this ‘correct’ behaviour? After all, wouldn’t you want to verify registrations to avoid abuse?

As much as I love your blog, Hani, Jason has a point. We can justifiably use the traditional open sores response to complaint: “Seeing as you know so much, join in and do something about it.” You are ideally placed to give Jason Hunter et al a playful kick in the hurty bits.

]]> By: Don http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-742 Don Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:50:51 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-742 Just read Hunter's JavaWorld article on Servlet 2.5 and I have to say I'm very dissapointed. To explain annotations he has to use an example of the @WebService annotation... in an article about servlets... which mandates using J2E5.0 for it's annotation support... WTF?? Why are there no meaningful servlet annotations???????? I especially appreciated the fact that he acknowledges there is _still no solution_ to the page after login (if one goes directly to the login page) and programatically logging in a user. As someone working in the real world its helpful to know these are real problems with no speced out solutions. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, people! NOT! Just read Hunter’s JavaWorld article on Servlet 2.5 and I have to say I’m very dissapointed. To explain annotations he has to use an example of the @WebService annotation… in an article about servlets… which mandates using J2E5.0 for it’s annotation support… WTF?? Why are there no meaningful servlet annotations????????

I especially appreciated the fact that he acknowledges there is _still no solution_ to the page after login (if one goes directly to the login page) and programatically logging in a user. As someone working in the real world its helpful to know these are real problems with no speced out solutions. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, people! NOT!

]]> By: Vic http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-741 Vic Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:01:24 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-741 "take their power from existance of MS". That could explain a lot of Sun, it seems to be their standard answer. "well ms did it that way". and why are you supprised by JCP? I'd allow a "disapointed but not supprised". Like portlets are not a part of JEEv5. No new layouts are a part of JSEv6, they plan to delay the ready GroupLayout(netbeans) till JSE7. Don't you have power to veto now, use it for us. .V “take their power from existance of MS”. That could explain a lot of Sun, it seems to be their standard answer. “well ms did it that way”.

and why are you supprised by JCP? I’d allow a “disapointed but not supprised”.

Like portlets are not a part of JEEv5. No new layouts are a part of JSEv6, they plan to delay the ready GroupLayout(netbeans) till JSE7.
Don’t you have power to veto now, use it for us.
.V

]]> By: jessieE http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-740 jessieE Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:36:16 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-740 since your so good, why dont you write a book, get it published, do some talks and make a lot of noise so you can get yourself elected in to the EG and have your way with the spec since your so good, why dont you write a book, get it published, do some talks and make a lot of noise so you can get yourself elected in to the EG and have your way with the spec

]]> By: Khurram Ijaz http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-739 Khurram Ijaz Wed, 04 Jan 2006 04:22:11 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-739 I hope they dont add more mambo/jambo to the xml stuff already present in deployment descriptors..... I hope they dont add more mambo/jambo to the xml stuff already present in deployment descriptors…..

]]> By: Craig Pfeifer http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-738 Craig Pfeifer Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:12:34 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-738 You should suggest the 2.5 servlet spec be renamed "Enterprise Servlet (ES) 5.0". Take THAT PHP AND RAILS! You should suggest the 2.5 servlet spec be renamed “Enterprise Servlet (ES) 5.0″. Take THAT PHP AND RAILS!

]]> By: Michael Jouravlev http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-737 Michael Jouravlev Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:42:12 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-737 I did not get what I wanted either: http://www.jroller.com/page/javadujour?entry=srv_2_5_no_candies But I don't care much now. I did not get what I wanted either: http://www.jroller.com/page/javadujour?entry=srv_2_5_no_candies
But I don’t care much now.

]]> By: warelock http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-736 warelock Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:35:24 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-736 getServletContextName(). I didn't know you could get the name of a web application ... damn. DOUBLE damn. If I had known that, I could have saved my IT consulting job and my six-figure income instead of finding a new job for myself frying these patties of 'meat by-product' (shudder) in lard and salt. Sure, they're tasty. But it's not the same. getServletContextName(). I didn’t know you could get the name of a web application … damn.

DOUBLE damn.

If I had known that, I could have saved my IT consulting job and my six-figure income instead of finding a new job for myself frying these patties of ‘meat by-product’ (shudder) in lard and salt.

Sure, they’re tasty. But it’s not the same.

]]> By: Jason Carreira http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-735 Jason Carreira Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:56:36 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-735 Aren't you supposed to be fixing this shit now? Isn't that what you were elected to do? When you were sworn in (I'm imagining a bizarre ceremony reminiscent of the ritual spankings portrayed in "Animal House") weren't you given a billyclub of righteousness? If not, maybe it's time to change the mission of the EC... Aren’t you supposed to be fixing this shit now? Isn’t that what you were elected to do? When you were sworn in (I’m imagining a bizarre ceremony reminiscent of the ritual spankings portrayed in “Animal House”) weren’t you given a billyclub of righteousness? If not, maybe it’s time to change the mission of the EC…

]]> By: elmira.fudd http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-734 elmira.fudd Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:42:39 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-734 duh, it's a good thing the servlet API has this though: "getServletContextName public String getServletContextName() Returns the name of this web application correponding to this ServletContext as specified in the deployment descriptor for this web application by the display-name element. Returns: The name of the web application or null if no name has been declared in the deployment descriptor. Since: Servlet 2.3 " the name of my web application as declared in the deployment descriptor (even if it doesn't match the context path) is EXTREMELY USEFUL! You wascals, you.... duh, it’s a good thing the servlet API has this though:

“getServletContextName

public String getServletContextName()

Returns the name of this web application correponding to this ServletContext as specified in the deployment descriptor for this web application by the display-name element.

Returns:
The name of the web application or null if no name has been declared in the deployment descriptor.
Since:
Servlet 2.3

”

the name of my web application as declared in the deployment descriptor (even if it doesn’t match the context path) is EXTREMELY USEFUL!

You wascals, you….

]]> By: Vardaman http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-733 Vardaman Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:55:45 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-733 I have nothing useful to say. Maybe I can get in on EG fun? I have nothing useful to say. Maybe I can get in on EG fun?

]]> By: Rob http://www.bileblog.org/2006/01/servlet-25-the-bad-the-ugly-and-the-pointless/comment-page-1/#comment-732 Rob Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:53:44 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=46#comment-732 First? First?

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