IBM owns 26.3% of JBoss
Those gluecode kids have certainly been busy! First they hijack Geronimo, and then go on to out-trump JBoss’ ‘we sold our soul for 10 mil’ with their own ‘we sold OUR soul for just under 100 mil’. The progression of these two companies is somewhat amusing. Whatever JBoss does, gluecode/geronimo will do too (yes, the blurring line is deliberate), but with more style, panache, and screwyouness (and infinitely better marketing).
The funniest aspect of the whole IBM/Gluecode deal of course is what’d happen if the ex-jboss gluecode guys hand over their jboss copyrights to IBM. Remember when the jboss hive bragged of how much of hibernate their owned? Of how they owned 37.7% of tomcat? Well well, how the tables have turned! If the copyrights are handed over, IBM will own a percentage of the jboss source code! I don’t know exact figures, but 20% is certainly not a surprising amount. Will you jboss guys now learn, what goes around comes around? For all your penis waggling about ownership, now your own excrement is owned by none other than one of the companies you have a severe inferiority complex about; IBM.
Why would the gluecode guys fork over this copyright anyway? Well, it’s a matter of insurance. JBoss could, if it so chose, decide to go after these guys individually. JBoss however, despite how monumentally stupid they usually are, are unlikely to want to play that game with IBM and take them to court. IBM has far deeper pockets and is not beholden to VCs in the way JBoss is.
In fact, Marc Fleury’s comments about the gluecode buyout show that he can barely walk straight, such is the volume of soilage in his pants right now. The entry starts off mildly panicked and worried, and goes through the usual degeneration into outright frothing and spasming, saying that Geronimo is worthless and crap, and doesn’t even have an EJB3 implementation (apparently in lalaland, having an implementation of a in-progresss specification that should be deployed into a production environment is a sign of a mature enterprise product). Even funnier of course is that Marc, as a result, received one of the by-now-familiar bend-over-and-receive-some-tough-love from his VC’s, and the blog entry was edited to remove some of the loonier ramblings.
Having said all that, one has to give credit to IBM. Yet again, they have proven themselves adept at sweet talking the ASF into bending over and taking it sans lube or even a comforting reacharound consolation prize. I’m sure they’ll turn Geronimo into a worthy version of Websphere (or vice versa, the difference between green shit and brown shit is minimal), and even in a worst case scenario, it’ll be sufficiently civilised compared to jboss that those evildoers will finally get their just desserts.
UPDATE
Minor correction, the unedited version was posted yesterday by Bob Bickel, the title was ‘Big Blue Gets Religion’. That entry was deleted, and the current entry by marcf is a slightly modified and cleaned up version. Thanks to the magic of the internet, you can find the original at http://www.javablogs.com/ViewEntry.action?id=211967. In your fat face, bob bickel!
May 11th, 2005 at 11:06 am
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May 11th, 2005 at 11:54 am
Damn! I want to see the unedited spasming! Anybody have it?
May 11th, 2005 at 12:55 pm
Excellent – Hani is truly the king of the 2 handed reacharound.
May 11th, 2005 at 1:58 pm
“given that its backing has primarily come from Gluecode, a company that?s been known for some time to be in financial trouble and lacking in community support (Less than 100 posts in 7 months of existence compared to 3,000 per month on the JBoss forums- http://www.gluecode.com/forums/index.jspa). Geronimo is obviously not J2EE certified. It is obviously low-end. It obviously is not tracking the EJB3 spec. Gluecode has written far less code (for example, in Q4 of last year Geronimo had 800″
He’s eaten so much shit that I think he choked and cryed all night. He got the buyout as a fucking personal attack aimed at the core of the JBoss business. Man never had I ever seen someone so scared. Bob go wash your pants, quickly.
BTW I’d rather read a blog entry from Geronimo dev list than 100 from Jboss.
May 11th, 2005 at 3:25 pm
Thanks Hani, this entry gave me the best laugh I’ve had in quite some time! And poor Bickel, he seems heartbroken that IBM bought someone else and not JBoss. I guess he doesn’t like his JBoss cell so much anymore..
May 11th, 2005 at 8:26 pm
Finally…some worthy BILE!
Excellent. Thanks, Hani….we needed that.
May 12th, 2005 at 6:30 am
“Geronimo also does not offer customers the full vision of the JBoss Enterprise Middleware System.”
This sounds sooooo BEAish to me. JBoss is having the same grandeur disease.
May 12th, 2005 at 8:51 am
I do not quite understand the comparison McFlurry makes — Linux was supported by IBM, therefore it prospered and Solaris declined, but Geronimo is supported by IBM, therefore it will decline, and JBoss will prosper?! What kind of logic is this? Seems to me like UnifiedClassLoader4 grade of logic…
Nice to see bigmouth McFlurry openly crapping his pants. Next we’ll see him boasting that nobody else can shit his pants as efficiently as him: “[Random craphead] also does not offer customers the full vision of the JBoss Trouser Crapping System.”
It’s good to have McFlurry — our lives would be less funny without him.
May 12th, 2005 at 9:55 am
McFlurry’s statement to IBM went something like:
I WILL MAKE WE DESTROY YOU!!!! NEVER THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN WILL YOU SEE!!!! SUCK MY DICK IBM!! SUCK IT!! SUUUUUUCKKKK!!! WIBBLE!!!!
Or something like that, anyways.
May 12th, 2005 at 12:56 pm
No matter how much you polish or shine a noodle it will always be just a noodle. Bob Bickel should remember that and the fact that his post will be replicated throughout the web for posterity. Many should come and see what has happened and that Bob will forever be relegated to shining noodles.
May 12th, 2005 at 2:49 pm
Boy, do I have some extra heavy laundry on my plate this week! The husband crapped his pants pretty much like the former pope on a day of major colostomy failure. Enough said.
May 12th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
ucking quality bile!!!
May 12th, 2005 at 10:47 pm
>>> Marc Fleury: “JBoss today controls the low-end mass distribution market and is a serious player in the very high end. We have one message around one platform and THAT IS the JBoss Enterprise Middleware System (JEMS).”
WTF? Somebody’s been eating too manhy of those garlick snails. Your “Enterprise” app server that is a serious player in the high end has a transaction manager that can’t even do a proper recovery from a 2-phase commit. I guess those banks and stock markets don’t care about a bit of lost data once in a while.
May 13th, 2005 at 8:38 am
I desperately hope that someone can help with this. My C drive has suddenly decided to die on me. I’m not sure what caused it (but I suspect a linux installation didnt like it being fat32). Anyways, whenever I try booting up, the C drive cant be accessed at all. Everything just gives an invalid media error. Now, if I boot into linux and mount the disk (with fat32 patch installed), I can read it all with no problems at all. The partition info and FAT all seem to be intact. Is there ANY way I can fix this without backing up/fdisk/format/restore backup/sys c:? ANY help appreciated, this is very urgent!
Thanks!
Honey
May 13th, 2005 at 10:13 am
Honey, it ain’t over til the fat lady sings!
May 13th, 2005 at 4:17 pm
Honey,
I think you’ve solved your problem yourself. Never boot into Windows again and not only will your C: drive, your entire life will be greatly improved.
ps. Ever since I lost my finger I’ve realised just how discrimnatory our number system is. Does anyone know where I can get a CAPTCHA that works in base 9?
May 15th, 2005 at 4:11 am
The FleuryBlog is fascinating by its unique blend of paranoia, illusions of grandeur, delusional “we are professional open sores” dreams, confused thoughts on biology and AO-pization of everything. Oh, and he likes techno crap too and spends his evenings with his games console (probably his best friend). Let’s see him now single-handedly beat IBM into abandoning the J2EE market to Fleury XIV and his garlic&snails-eating clique.
May 16th, 2005 at 12:40 pm
“reacharound consolation prize”
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
May 16th, 2005 at 6:58 pm
Bile this:
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=33916
October 13th, 2005 at 6:47 am
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Less than 100 posts in 7 months of existence compared to 3,000 per month on the JBoss forums
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3000 problems a month with JBoss, since when is that a good thing?
October 14th, 2006 at 8:39 am
WTF? Somebody’s been eating too manhy of those garlick snails. Your “Enterprise” app server that is a serious player in the high end has a transaction manager that can’t even do a proper recovery from a 2-phase commit. I guess those banks and stock markets don’t care about a bit of lost data once in a while.