Comments on: JUnit bible thumpers

By: huanghaiymr

huanghaiymr — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:10:02 +0000

when a beginner code a simple code,code one,pass one,then code another,pass another,you insure your code is passed by yourself,so others can use your interface,so whole team’s code can pass.
I can not imagining,Tom write 10 Class , include 100 method, everyone all not test, Jack also, in finally,Whole team could depend one Junit to test ,maybe 100 Class,1000 method, even more.
I come from china, hello friends.

By: George Brooke

George Brooke — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:26:36 +0000

Hi,
well that was a bit of a rant. My take on Junit is that it is somewhere between very useful and essential. Let me skip the obvious bit about unit testing and so on. I found in my work another use of Junit, but a rather indirect use. Essentially it boiled down to this: If I write code which is functional and at the same time ECONOMICALLY testable in JUnit then generally I have found the code under test to be well structured. Conversely, code which is hard to drive via JUnit has tended to need some re-engineering. If you like, putting a JUnit view on the code lets me see faults in structure (or more typically in functionality and encapsulation). I put this down to the constraint of the code needing to run in two environments (the JUnit and production environments). Code which I recently re-engineered to be easily movable between JUnit and the production system was much cleaner and better structured than previously.
So, turning this all around. Let’s use Junit also as a tool to look at the structuring of our software. If the cost of JUnitting a piece of code appears high then perhaps the code needs a rewrite. Pair-wise development should make this easier as the correctiosn can be made on the fly.

Just to avoid the explosion which might result from this, let me say that I believe that there are code constructions which are exceptions and which are inherently difficult to Junit, but let’s regard these as exceptions, and start to apply the “Economical Junit” test as a measure of quality.

By: katie goose

katie goose — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:39:30 +0000

what’s up with nerds and profanity? learn something more interesting. try to elevate your vocabulary above the level of using a form of ‘f-ck’ to describe everything-or is that too f-ing hard?

By: test-driven-donut puncher killer

test-driven-donut puncher killer — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:08:44 +0000

Shut the fuck up u cunt fucking breeding mother fucking “straight” bastard go rape a dyke normal you piece of fucking worthless shit. Fucking faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Test-driven-donut puncher

Test-driven-donut puncher — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:48:27 +0000

It should be renamed to gay-unit…

By: katie goose

katie goose — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:03:05 +0000

To “Dude”-whoever you are, I’m not into writing code, so I don’t usually visit these sorts of message boards, and if it’s an inside joke I would not understand it, but you don’t know Mrs. Gosling, and you have no right to call her a “whore”, because she is a perfectly respectable lady. If you feel it’s ok to just randomly insult other people’s mothers (or paternal grandmothers) there is something seriously wrong with you. While you may be annoyed some other Birkenstock and t-shirt wearing nerd, leave his mother alone!

By: Croctech

Croctech — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:58:19 +0000

[Trackback] The Bileblog has a few words to say about blind adherence to the principles of testing with JUnit.

It’s fairly impressive how unit testing seems to have grabbed a number of java developers by the balls, and made them sing in surprisingly high voic…

By: tom bombadyll

tom bombadyll — Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:13:25 +0000

Before Junit, a company called parasoft.com used to call us every friggin day. They wanted to sell unit test frameworks. At least junit is free.

By: dave morrison

dave morrison — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 04:53:46 +0000

James is not an asshole. I spoke too soon. I apologize.

By: dave morrison

dave morrison — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 04:33:04 +0000

oh, and btw-he hates being called jimmy

By: dave morrison

dave morrison — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 04:29:13 +0000

yes, james gosling would say the word ‘fuck’ and yes, he is an asshole. believe me, i know

By: James

James — Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:25:20 +0000

On my way home from my paid software development job, every evening I pass a group of youths squatting on the cobbles in a circle next to the local mall. They sit there, dressed in their genuine imitation leather long black coats, jacked-up boots with big silver buckles, long, lanky black hair and heavy eye-makeup and bitch about everyone that walks past. “Look at that guy in the suit – he’s such a wage slave”. “Look at the good little housewife getting dinner for her husband”. “God, the cool kids at school are such losers”. “I’m glad I’m not a conformist like everyone else, I’ll never be a lemming” as they sit there in their identical clothes with their identical badges listening to identical goth music on their identical mp3 players and bum-puffing identical 1mg cigarettes with identical sneers absorbing their identical opinions from each other.
Fast forward a few years…
“God, those JUnit bible-thumpers are such losers, we’re so avant-garde in our disdain…”
I hope this site is clever satire. I really do.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:51:57 +0000

Unit testing facilitates re-factoring you dumb ass. Junit or not, writing tests for every method is a must.

By: A Weak White Woman

A Weak White Woman — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:06:22 +0000

“A Proud Black Man”
A.k.a. Peter Pilgrim.

By: A Proud Black Man

A Proud Black Man — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:46:03 +0000

What was that about “niggers” and Junit?

Given that members of a national football team (soccer) Englandr were racially abuse last Wednesday
I am surprised by your comments. I though software
professional were above and aloof cultural hoo haas and demonstrated a better way to live
your life on planet, Earth. I think some
dont give a fuck whatever happens to progress
so it will be the same as it ever was…

The nuclear boob will prabably kill off all
of us in the end, sunce as a human
race were all fucked up.

Well listen up to tjhis:

Fuck you too, Hani you little bitch-ass cunt

By: Muhaha!

Muhaha! — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:52:54 +0000

LOL, seems like Hani lost big-time to the G-Mail wankers and JBoss turdarians. Sorry, Hani, but why did you run for the election anyway? It seems like the only reason was to offer the Flurries a chance to look down on you for a change…

Man, I’m dissappointed of you! Hope you at least had some “Oral” action with the gentleman who finished last.

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:02:28 +0000

Thanks Hani, for such a wonderful article. I am going to donate my testing tool to commons project. You just watch, it will be elevated above JUnit in a short few weeks. I’ve had great successes using my personal commons-unit with my JBoss EJB 4.0 projects with JSF and integrating with Maven and Drools is a snatch. You can even configure it in XML or Ruby scripts and it’s great with dot NET. :) BTW, my daddy is also a leading cult expert. http://www.rickross.com

By: anonymouse

anonymouse — Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:14:08 +0000

JSR 69

Java Porn API

By: anonymouse

anonymouse — Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:12:59 +0000

If the BILE is BROWN,
then you should punch a CLOWN

By: Davide Inglima - limaCAT

Davide Inglima - limaCAT — Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:57:44 +0000

First post on the JBoss vs Geronimo bile!