Comments on: TSSS: AOP still sucks

By: Spring’s AOP support can’t be ignored « Arsenalist

Spring’s AOP support can’t be ignored « Arsenalist — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:20:59 +0000

[...] AOP classes but there’s enough talk about it splashed all over the internet that even though it might be a worthless concept that you’ve never used or cared about, you’re bound to encounter it at some point. A [...]

By: Jean-Philippe Gariepy

Jean-Philippe Gariepy — Wed, 12 May 2004 11:32:34 +0000

I can’t wait to see how people are going to abuse AOP.

Also tired of hearing about the logging example.

By: Toy App Maker

Toy App Maker — Fri, 07 May 2004 10:58:30 +0000

You are just an idiot. Quit before you make yourself look even more retarded.

By: just an idiot

just an idiot — Fri, 07 May 2004 06:37:13 +0000

toy app maker well ok how would unit test that webwork or action to be more acurate, say you handle security using an interceptor on execute(), hell you wouldn’t want to test something as trivial as security now would you?

/me brings his finger to his mouth , husshhhh

By: Toy App Maker

Toy App Maker — Fri, 07 May 2004 02:33:20 +0000

BEST BLOG ENTRY EVER!

Complimented by best comments. I really like the:
“And how would you propose to unit test that servlet ? ”

BWHAHAHAHA…….

And the butter……stop already, my sides are splitting…(wipes tears).

By: Vcat

Vcat — Thu, 06 May 2004 22:41:05 +0000

Great, so funny and so true.

Wait! I can use AOP to butter my toast while picking my butt. Cross cutting concerns that I really want to advise against.

By: Vcat

Vcat — Thu, 06 May 2004 22:36:14 +0000

Great, so funny and so true.

Wait! I can use AOP to butter my toast while picking my butt. Cross cutting concerns that I really want to advise against.

By: jb

jb — Thu, 06 May 2004 21:35:04 +0000

First, why would you unit test the servlet? Why wouldn’t you unit test the logic, and stress-test the servlet?

Secondly, I’ve never liked the implication(s) of AOP – you’re going to put the code for one module/object/class into two or more places. How many? Unknowable without a search across your entire project and deep understanding of the regular expressions and the point cuts and all the other crap. When you debug, the code that you look at on the screen is not the same as the code that is running – unless you want to look at the post-cut code – assuming that is even possible.

There are probably applications for aspects, possibly in server config like Fleury says, but in regular programming? *Shudder*.

By: just an idiot

just an idiot — Thu, 06 May 2004 18:13:49 +0000

And how would you propose to unit test that servlet ?
Unless I am sorely mistaken there’s not really a good way, aop is cleaner

By: Marc Fleury

Marc Fleury — Thu, 06 May 2004 17:05:06 +0000

I HAVE NO WILLY

By: jwzrd

jwzrd — Thu, 06 May 2004 16:19:32 +0000

You forget the zillions of bad ideas for which that was said too! Just because 2-3 goode ideas got slapped doesn’t make AOP the best thing since sliced bread.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2004 15:56:32 +0000

“AOP fans are basically those too lazy to do any thinking or design up front.”

Gee first time i have heard that about fans of a PARC technology. Besides the gui, the mouse and possible the bean bag chair. Well two out three aint bad.

By: boxed

boxed — Thu, 06 May 2004 15:31:34 +0000

Thou art unfit for any place but hell.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2004 15:23:22 +0000

Are you gonna wear an asshat on the symposium? I dunno what you look like so that’d help.

By: boxed

boxed — Thu, 06 May 2004 14:47:51 +0000

Hence, horrible villain, or I’ll spurn thine eyes like balls before me; I’ll unhair thy head, Thou shalt be whipp’d with wire, and stew’d'in brine, smarting in lingering pickle.