22 Responses to “Commons-io: By retards, for retards”

1. Henri Yandell Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 3:46 pm

   A most detailed investigation.

   The Filter issue is your own personal coding choice, bespoke vs lego. I’m with the lego.

   DeferredOutputStream will be asked to justify its existence, as will the IOUtils.toByteArray method.

   Finally, I’ll have you know that per dictum #1267, by order of the chair, red-haired Jakarta committers have dyed their hair blonde.

2. Henri Yandell Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 3:51 pm

   http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/io/

   shame on you Hani :)

3. Anonymous Bastard Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 4:30 pm

   The IOUtils class, which has only static members states this in its constructor:
   “Instances should NOT be constructed in standard programming.”
   Do I need to point out that the constructor is public?

4. chester Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 4:52 pm

   The reason for the public constructors is because scripting tools like Velocity have problems calling static methods. They have to invoke methods on an instance, even if the methods are static.

   I’m not even sure if this is still true (about Velocity) but I think that this is the reason.

5. Multiple choice Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 6:39 pm

   Avoiding copypaste, what would you choose?:

   1. programing macros in a static class? (***Util)
   2. programing a new Class with one method? (for thread safety)
   3. programing/using a codegenerator that does the copypaste at build-time?
   4. programing a good structured design?
   5. programing a good oo design?
   6. use a commons-**** package?

6. a retard Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 7:26 pm

   now
   

   thats

   what a bile should look like :)

7. fletch Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 7:39 pm

   While you’re being pedantic, it’s “dismiss them out of hand”, not “dismiss them out of hands”… unless, of course, you were doing a bad wanker joke… but anyone who needs both hands to wank is either doing it wrong or really shouldn’t be wanking.

8. Jed Wesley-Smith Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 9:20 pm

   if they wanted to be useful, a toCharArray() that deals with char encoding properly would have been great (unicode can be a minefield to the unwary).

   I have to profess though, the rest of IOUtil is pretty handy, its very easy to fuck up those pesky Reader->Writer kind of operations in weird and wonderful ways…

9. Jed Wesley-Smith Says:
   May 27th, 2004 at 9:24 pm

   duh, they did! scuse my ignorance, but the copy(*) methods take encodings as args or use the default if unspecified. oh well, back to my hole…

10. Jed Wesley-Smith Says:
    May 27th, 2004 at 9:39 pm

    one last thing [haven't learnt yet, probably should post with a pseudonym] re. immutable Strings … on oldie but a goldie:

        public String getAString() {
            //get a reference to the private field value in String class.
            java.lang.reflect.Field stringValue = String.class.getDeclaredField("value");
            //make it accessible
            stringValue.setAccessible(true);
            //unsuspecting string
            String sittingDuck = "sittingDuck!!!!!";
            //black magic happening here
            stringValue.set(sittingDuck, "hastaLaVistaBaby".toCharArray());
            //guess the output of this!
            return "sittingDuck!!!!!";
        }

    apparently this has been fixed in some recent JDK, but not sure which… doesn’t affect getBytes() but, which I have just noticed ALSO has char encoding support … dang I’m slow today!!! [note to self, NEVER post under real name the day after a big rehearsal]

11. wazlaf Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 9:24 am

    hani-

    if I remember properly, you wished for the existence of such a device in a previous bile. this might be something for you:

    Printer which takes in toilet paper

12. Clown Puncher Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 11:02 am

    >but anyone who needs both hands to wank is either >doing it wrong or really shouldn’t be wanking.
    >
    >Posted by fletch at 27.05.2004 19:39:46

    OR has a really BIG FAT CLOWN!

13. Some reader Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 11:03 am

    What’s encapsulation and information hidding?

    “Though the code may use Java objects, it does so in a manner reminiscent of a by-gone era: utility functions operating on data structures. Welcome to 1972!”

14. Jakarta Tard Boy Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 11:09 am

    What is does “immutable” mean?

    Sorry for my poor Engrish. I am from Pakistan where we murder each other over 100 rupees.

15. Jakarta Guy Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 11:54 am

    Shame on you! Not everyone in the world is as healthy and fat as pigs like Americans.

    Sorry for my bad English. I’m from Indonesia, where all candidates running for presidency can all go to hell … especially Amien Rais (fuck you!), except Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (yay! Good Old Nationalist Military Figure — kick away those retarded religious candidates)

    > What is does “immutable” mean?
    > Sorry for my poor Engrish. I am from Pakistan > where we murder each other over 100 rupees.

16. Jakarta Guy Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 11:54 am

    Oopss… I mean Wealthy. That proved my bad English.

17. Jakarta Tard Boy Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 12:27 pm

    I said I am from Pakistan. I am thin as toothpick.

    I still want know now what mean “Immutable”?

    Sorry for by mad English. I am from the pit of the arm Rawalpindi. We have no immutables.

18. HolyOne Says:
    May 28th, 2004 at 3:02 pm

    From the out sight, Apache looks good. and true,some of them may be good.

    But with so many utils crap around, it really sucks now a days.

    Yeah, how about somebody releasing an util library to wrap up all the fu**ing utils around??

    Why the hell on earth, these people should leave the programmers to do the job? If somebody cannot do even a code to use string properly, why the hell on earth, they should be paid as programmers?

    Sucks is the milder word!

19. Rampant Clown Says:
    May 29th, 2004 at 3:11 am

    While Henri likes his Lego, I think he’s playing with it on his own. Does anyone actually use these Jakarta bollocks in their products ? I mean, do you insist that your users will have to download this filth or do you just write what you need since it takes so little time to do it?

20. Janek Bogucki Says:
    May 29th, 2004 at 6:21 am

    There are some real gems available from the Jakarta project. My personal time saving favourites are the simple and effective org.apache.commons.lang.builder.HashCodeBuilder and org.apache.commons.lang.builder.EqualsBuilder.

    I wouldn’t be without them.

21. INNOVATION INNOVATION INNOVATION Says:
    June 4th, 2004 at 5:10 am

    http://trijug.org/downloads/JBOSS1.ppt

    crazy & funny & pathetic

22. Anonymous Says:
    June 22nd, 2004 at 6:35 am

    My personal time saving favourites are the simple and effective org.apache.commons.lang.builder.HashCodeBuilder and org.apache.commons.lang.builder.EqualsBuilder.

    Yeah, right, time saving. Till the day you realize that the company app server has restricted relflection capabilities and you end up writing the same old bull hashCode methods anew.