Comments on: Kill OSS Java http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kill-oss-java If you have nothing bad to say, say nothing. Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:51:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ean Schuessler http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7494 Ean Schuessler Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:57:52 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-7494 Wow! I can't believe it only took three more years. (bitch!) Wow! I can’t believe it only took three more years. (bitch!)

]]> By: Rob Abbe http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4373 Rob Abbe Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:34:41 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4373 "why don't you fucking stop using Jakarta products, JBoss, etc.?" Ok deal, now you stop using commercial VMs and stick to the VMs that are exclusivly open source. “why don’t you fucking stop using Jakarta products, JBoss, etc.?”

Ok deal, now you stop using commercial VMs and stick to the VMs that are exclusivly open source.

]]> By: Ean Schuessler http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4372 Ean Schuessler Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:59:44 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4372 <p>Whoops! I'm a dipshit too.</p> <p>Most popular persistance framework: Hibernate</p> <p>(I got carried away in my RMS-like self rightousness and didn't read what I was posting.)</p> Whoops! I’m a dipshit too.

Most popular persistance framework: Hibernate

(I got carried away in my RMS-like self rightousness and didn’t read what I was posting.)

]]> By: Ean Schuessler http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4371 Ean Schuessler Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:58:10 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4371 <p>Ha ha! Bileblog is written by a dipshit!</p> <p>Let's see here...<br> Most popular Java web server: Tomcat<br> Most popular J2EE framework: JBoss<br> Most popular IDE: Eclipse, maybe Netbeans<br> Most popular persistance framework: Eclipse<br> </p> <p>Most popular JVM: Only a matter of time, bitch</p> Ha ha! Bileblog is written by a dipshit!

Let’s see here…
Most popular Java web server: Tomcat
Most popular J2EE framework: JBoss
Most popular IDE: Eclipse, maybe Netbeans
Most popular persistance framework: Eclipse

Most popular JVM: Only a matter of time, bitch

]]> By: flavio http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4370 flavio Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:54:28 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4370 To all the people who like the JVM not being OSS: why don't you fucking stop using Jakarta products, JBoss, etc.? Do you really think that an OS JVM would not work? mmm, i think that the only people that suck are the readers of this blog. To all the people who like the JVM not being OSS:
why don’t you fucking stop using Jakarta products, JBoss, etc.? Do you really think that an OS JVM would not work? mmm, i think that the only people that suck are the readers of this blog.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4369 Kevin Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:27:33 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4369 I agree with Rob. I would much rather see the specification owned by Sun, they are the committers. But allow the JVM/JRE/JDK/etc to be open-sourced. I don't believe Sun should give up their rights, and frankly, as big as Java is, I am surprised they aren't making more money on it. I am glad too, as JAva is one of the few languages you can download and get going in an hour or so on development and be able to developer client side, applets, wireless, server side and all that from one download (pretty much), perhaps two if you include jboss or something for server side. I don't see any of the linux C compilers being os easy to download and use, although perhaps they are more so now than last time I checked. Other than Borland/MetroWerks/MS IDE's which all cost big money, there are few IDE's/languages that give you the full bang you get out of java for the low/no cost. I agree with Rob. I would much rather see the specification owned by Sun, they are the committers. But allow the JVM/JRE/JDK/etc to be open-sourced. I don’t believe Sun should give up their rights, and frankly, as big as Java is, I am surprised they aren’t making more money on it. I am glad too, as JAva is one of the few languages you can download and get going in an hour or so on development and be able to developer client side, applets, wireless, server side and all that from one download (pretty much), perhaps two if you include jboss or something for server side. I don’t see any of the linux C compilers being os easy to download and use, although perhaps they are more so now than last time I checked. Other than Borland/MetroWerks/MS IDE’s which all cost big money, there are few IDE’s/languages that give you the full bang you get out of java for the low/no cost.

]]> By: Tail End Twat http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4368 Tail End Twat Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:05:45 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4368 last post! last post!

]]> By: Last Post Slut http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4367 Last Post Slut Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:40:11 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4367 . .

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4366 Anonymous Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:37:38 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4366 Get a life losers Get a life losers

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4365 Anonymous Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:22:16 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4365 EAT A DICK!!! EAT A DICK!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4364 Anonymous Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:13:01 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4364 Poem to javac ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JBG JDK ESR MFC, OSS ESR GPL SWT IBM RMS JVM JCP. Poem to javac
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JBG JDK ESR MFC,
OSS ESR GPL SWT
IBM RMS JVM JCP.

]]> By: Evil Mark http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4363 Evil Mark Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:50:26 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4363 JBOSS IS OSS! OSS IS JBOSS! I WILL <spasm> UCKING <spasm> KILL <spasm> YOU! SING ME 'BLUE VELVET' <spasm> YOU DAAAAMN <spasm> blogcrier! JBOSS IS OSS! OSS IS JBOSS! I WILL UCKING KILL YOU! SING ME ‘BLUE VELVET’ YOU DAAAAMN blogcrier!

]]> By: Rob Abbe http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4362 Rob Abbe Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:33:36 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4362 Rampant Clown, non-OSS Zealots eh? We're not the ones making demands. Since, there are many companies, groups and organizations beyond Sun with a vested interest in Java, I don't see how Boogaloo's comments are even valid, which is probably why no one responded. To be honest I could care less if Java falls into some sort of OSS situation as long as assurances are in place that prevent forking and incompatibilities. It is somewhat arrogant though to ask Sun to turn Java over and still expect them to manage the spec and produce compatibility kits don't you think? What I would really love to see, is for the OSS "Community" to actually put their money where their mouth is and build an open source platform as robust as Java and stop making demands that others turn over their property. Since that actually takes money, I doubt it will ever happen unless the cash comes from an evil corporation like IBM, Microsoft or Sun. Be a man (or woman) and post using your real name! Rob Rampant Clown,

non-OSS Zealots eh? We’re not the ones making demands.

Since, there are many companies, groups and organizations beyond Sun with a vested interest in Java, I don’t see how Boogaloo’s comments are even valid, which is probably why no one responded.

To be honest I could care less if Java falls into some sort of OSS situation as long as assurances are in place that prevent forking and incompatibilities. It is somewhat arrogant though to ask Sun to turn Java over and still expect them to manage the spec and produce compatibility kits don’t you think?

What I would really love to see, is for the OSS “Community” to actually put their money where their mouth is and build an open source platform as robust as Java and stop making demands that others turn over their property. Since that actually takes money, I doubt it will ever happen unless the cash comes from an evil corporation like IBM, Microsoft or Sun.

Be a man (or woman) and post using your real name!

Rob

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4361 Anonymous Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:33:28 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4361 I think fate should be scourged and crucified! I think fate should be scourged and crucified!

]]> By: Rampant Clown http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4360 Rampant Clown Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:02:22 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4360 Ahh, so we have smoked out the hardcore non-OSS zealots with this bile. I see nobody has even responded to Boogaloo's arguments. What I would prefer would be an "OpenSource and Linux type" situation, where the source is released and open but where Sun and the JCP perform the Linus role of vetting all changes. With this situation you have Sun retaining a level of control over the final 'product', yet you are safeguarded from the situations correctly highlighted in Boogaloo's post. Perhaps someone can reply intelligently without referring to shit-eating grins and Punching. If anyone wants Punching, I know just the person to send around. Ahh, so we have smoked out the hardcore non-OSS zealots with this bile. I see nobody has even responded to Boogaloo’s arguments. What I would prefer would be an “OpenSource and Linux type” situation, where the source is released and open but where Sun and the JCP perform the Linus role of vetting all changes. With this situation you have Sun retaining a level of control over the final ‘product’, yet you are safeguarded from the situations correctly highlighted in Boogaloo’s post. Perhaps someone can reply intelligently without referring to shit-eating grins and Punching. If anyone wants Punching, I know just the person to send around.

]]> By: Ron Eisele http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4359 Ron Eisele Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:05:44 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4359 Whole-heartedly agree, all this recent discussion regarding Sun "needing" to open Java is bollocks. Some great chuckles can be garnered from the hardcore OSS zealots tho. My favorites are the people who flat-out refuse to install Nvidia's (gasp!!!) binary-only drivers....but I'm convinced most of those nuts merely post it to look kewl... Whole-heartedly agree, all this recent discussion regarding Sun “needing” to open Java is bollocks.

Some great chuckles can be garnered from the hardcore OSS zealots tho. My favorites are the people who flat-out refuse to install Nvidia’s (gasp!!!) binary-only drivers….but I’m convinced most of those nuts merely post it to look kewl…

]]> By: Rob Abbe http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4358 Rob Abbe Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:15:25 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4358 Great bile, but what took you so damn long? Great bile, but what took you so damn long?

]]> By: Henri Yandell http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4357 Henri Yandell Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:50:09 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4357 A worrying time. I find myself agreeing with Hani. Open the JCP lists? Sure. The source? Who cares. A worrying time. I find myself agreeing with Hani.

Open the JCP lists? Sure.
The source? Who cares.

]]> By: anon http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4356 anon Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:19:58 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4356 where's chiara? where’s chiara?

]]> By: Pawn http://www.bileblog.org/2004/02/kill-oss-java/comment-page-1/#comment-4355 Pawn Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:09:50 +0000 http://www.bileblog.org/?p=170#comment-4355 Hani as you know this wasn't your best post eva. Take your time and get some qaulity on this board. Make the laughs last more than a few moment. And move on from the private part jokes your becoming like Ben Stiller and Bathrooom jokess Hani as you know this wasn’t your best post eva. Take your time and get some qaulity on this board. Make the laughs last more than a few moment. And move on from the private part jokes your becoming like Ben Stiller and Bathrooom jokess

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