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		<title>By: Reinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5003</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; &quot;What&#039;s wrong with Avalon?&quot; --Reinhard
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&gt; Uhhh...it sucks. That&#039;s what&#039;s wrong with it. Need &gt; more explanation? Look at the code.

This answer &quot;... look at the code&quot; is too simple. What&#039;s wrong in detail?
I know the Avalon Framework which is well-thought, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with Avalon?&#8221; &#8211;Reinhard<br />
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> Uhhh&#8230;it sucks. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s wrong with it. Need > more explanation? Look at the code.</p>
<p>This answer &#8220;&#8230; look at the code&#8221; is too simple. What&#8217;s wrong in detail?<br />
I know the Avalon Framework which is well-thought, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Toy App Maker</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5002</link>
		<dc:creator>Toy App Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What&#039;s wrong with Avalon?&quot; --Reinhard

Uhhh...it sucks. That&#039;s what&#039;s wrong with it. Need more explanation? Look at the code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with Avalon?&#8221; &#8211;Reinhard</p>
<p>Uhhh&#8230;it sucks. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s wrong with it. Need more explanation? Look at the code.</p>
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		<title>By: Reinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5001</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2004 05:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with Avalon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with Avalon?</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5000</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cedric, is that you posing as &quot;Chiara hater&quot;? Nobody told anybody that you&#039;re 34 years old now, so don&#039;t take it so personally, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedric, is that you posing as &#8220;Chiara hater&#8221;? Nobody told anybody that you&#8217;re 34 years old now, so don&#8217;t take it so personally, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Chiara hater</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4999</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiara hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chiara, you are such a fucking hypocrite. When is the last time you weren&#039;t kissing the arses of all your little virtual cyberspace buddies. There is some sappy ass happy b-day to some guy named Cedric on your blog right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiara, you are such a fucking hypocrite. When is the last time you weren&#8217;t kissing the arses of all your little virtual cyberspace buddies. There is some sappy ass happy b-day to some guy named Cedric on your blog right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Toy App Maker</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4998</link>
		<dc:creator>Toy App Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So I went and looked at the book hoping it would cover the JBoss server. it didn&#039;t. I wonder why that was.&quot;

Because Mark has threatened to kill (with his bare fucking hands, no less) anyone who rips off the JBoss for pay documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I went and looked at the book hoping it would cover the JBoss server. it didn&#8217;t. I wonder why that was.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because Mark has threatened to kill (with his bare fucking hands, no less) anyone who rips off the JBoss for pay documentation.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas winblerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas winblerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JIRA is gay</description>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4996</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I went and looked at the book hoping it would cover the JBoss server. it didn&#039;t.  I wonder why that was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I went and looked at the book hoping it would cover the JBoss server. it didn&#8217;t.  I wonder why that was.</p>
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		<title>By: Toy App Maker</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4995</link>
		<dc:creator>Toy App Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My comments are at http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html&quot;

Who cares? I would have never bought the book, and I wont read yours or Joe&#039;s comments.

We&#039;re all proud that you all wrote a book. It reminds me of this jackass I went to school with who wrote an Introduction to HTML book back in the mid 90&#039;s.

All he did was slap some shit together that anyone with half a brain could have found themselves by clicking &quot;view source&quot; a few times in their Netscape .9 window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My comments are at <a href="http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Who cares? I would have never bought the book, and I wont read yours or Joe&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all proud that you all wrote a book. It reminds me of this jackass I went to school with who wrote an Introduction to HTML book back in the mid 90&#8242;s.</p>
<p>All he did was slap some shit together that anyone with half a brain could have found themselves by clicking &#8220;view source&#8221; a few times in their Netscape .9 window.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4994</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 09:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I bought it and read it and to be honest I couldn&#039;t agree more with Hani. Money well and truly wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I bought it and read it and to be honest I couldn&#8217;t agree more with Hani. Money well and truly wasted.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Walnes</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4993</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Walnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I knew eventually the book would be biled. Ermm thanks, I think. I do somewhat think you&#039;ve missed the point of the book though.

Read my response here: http://joe.truemesh.com/blog/000154.html

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I knew eventually the book would be biled. Ermm thanks, I think. I do somewhat think you&#8217;ve missed the point of the book though.</p>
<p>Read my response here: <a href="http://joe.truemesh.com/blog/000154.html" rel="nofollow">http://joe.truemesh.com/blog/000154.html</a></p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chiara, precious.....

One of the funny things about free speech is that if one exercises their right to free spech then one should expect others to exercise theirs - by in this case, criticising Hani straight back.

There is nothing in the notion of &quot;free speech&quot; that suggests that if someone writes offensive shit then others have no right to be offended by it.

Personally I think Hani has lost it and hasn&#039;t been funny for months. This review was stupid. I&#039;ve read parts of the book (not just skimmed it in the bookshop as Hani admits he did) and they are quite good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiara, precious&#8230;..</p>
<p>One of the funny things about free speech is that if one exercises their right to free spech then one should expect others to exercise theirs &#8211; by in this case, criticising Hani straight back.</p>
<p>There is nothing in the notion of &#8220;free speech&#8221; that suggests that if someone writes offensive shit then others have no right to be offended by it.</p>
<p>Personally I think Hani has lost it and hasn&#8217;t been funny for months. This review was stupid. I&#8217;ve read parts of the book (not just skimmed it in the bookshop as Hani admits he did) and they are quite good.</p>
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		<title>By: Poomonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4991</link>
		<dc:creator>Poomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end you are all just silly poomonkeys like me.  Now take your ludes and laxatives and relax like a good primate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end you are all just silly poomonkeys like me.  Now take your ludes and laxatives and relax like a good primate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4990</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, There is a difference between a honest objective review and a very public and humiliating bashing presented to their prospective buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, There is a difference between a honest objective review and a very public and humiliating bashing presented to their prospective buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiara</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the fuck is wrong with all you morons, and why the fuck Patrick is whining? Why shouldn&#039;t Hani write a critique and express his opinions. Just because he is a friend? Oh my goodness, if one becomes a friend to you only by kissing your arses, then, hopefully, one will never want friends like you. Hani wrote what held true for him. I don&#039;t always agree with what he says, but i would defend with my life, his right to say it. He is being attacked for the wrong thing here. Like he had a duty to shut up and keep silence in the sight of a (what he considers a crappy book,) just because he is your friend? Oh Please, do you realize pitiful you all sound. You want to write a book, write it for God&#039;s sake, but do expect public reaction to it, whether this being praise or criticism. 
Frankly, from all i read, and this not from Hani&#039;s comments, but rather from all you whining arses that book is very mediocre. 
Next time write an awesome book, put Hani to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the fuck is wrong with all you morons, and why the fuck Patrick is whining? Why shouldn&#8217;t Hani write a critique and express his opinions. Just because he is a friend? Oh my goodness, if one becomes a friend to you only by kissing your arses, then, hopefully, one will never want friends like you. Hani wrote what held true for him. I don&#8217;t always agree with what he says, but i would defend with my life, his right to say it. He is being attacked for the wrong thing here. Like he had a duty to shut up and keep silence in the sight of a (what he considers a crappy book,) just because he is your friend? Oh Please, do you realize pitiful you all sound. You want to write a book, write it for God&#8217;s sake, but do expect public reaction to it, whether this being praise or criticism.<br />
Frankly, from all i read, and this not from Hani&#8217;s comments, but rather from all you whining arses that book is very mediocre.<br />
Next time write an awesome book, put Hani to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Carreira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Carreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Hani, I like your writing much more when it&#039;s based on real problems and not just personal differences and bashing people for the sake of bashing them. I think, whether you like it or not, you have some responsibility to be fair and accurate in your writing, as you&#039;ve gained a cult following of shit-throwing monkeys here. 

I won&#039;t go into specifics, but your personal problems with individuals, projects, and technologies shone through brightly here, and it&#039;s a real shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Hani, I like your writing much more when it&#8217;s based on real problems and not just personal differences and bashing people for the sake of bashing them. I think, whether you like it or not, you have some responsibility to be fair and accurate in your writing, as you&#8217;ve gained a cult following of shit-throwing monkeys here. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go into specifics, but your personal problems with individuals, projects, and technologies shone through brightly here, and it&#8217;s a real shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani, I have to admit that you have some serious balls. I have a new found respect for you. You care more about the integrity of the world famous bile blog followed by several dozen java programmers than having any friends. Wow, this alter ego is consuming you my friend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hani, I have to admit that you have some serious balls. I have a new found respect for you. You care more about the integrity of the world famous bile blog followed by several dozen java programmers than having any friends. Wow, this alter ego is consuming you my friend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Lightbody</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Lightbody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 02:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comments are at http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments are at <a href="http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightbody.net/~plightbo/archives/000043.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristopher Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4985</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristopher Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>javablogs.com is built with a big mishmash of great opensource technology that will one day rule the world.  the other day the daily email I signed up for 6 months ago did start sending email!  Alright so the list of most popular entries from the last 24 hours was completely blank, making it kind of superfluous, but hey, what do you expect from free software and a free website, anyway?  one day when it is working javablogs will show you the true power of these technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>javablogs.com is built with a big mishmash of great opensource technology that will one day rule the world.  the other day the daily email I signed up for 6 months ago did start sending email!  Alright so the list of most popular entries from the last 24 hours was completely blank, making it kind of superfluous, but hey, what do you expect from free software and a free website, anyway?  one day when it is working javablogs will show you the true power of these technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Giant Jakarta Turd</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2004/01/open-source-java-programming-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>Giant Jakarta Turd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2004 17:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not just Webwork people but the whole OpenSymphonhy crowd. They always complain how crappy the Jakarta stuff is and how it always gets the publicity and know one cares about poor wittle OpenSymphony pwojects. I don&#039;t know why Hani but would you please stop whining about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not just Webwork people but the whole OpenSymphonhy crowd. They always complain how crappy the Jakarta stuff is and how it always gets the publicity and know one cares about poor wittle OpenSymphony pwojects. I don&#8217;t know why Hani but would you please stop whining about it.</p>
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