Month in review
It’s been a while, so there is much ground to cover. On with the show!
First regarding JBoss vs ASF. Well, more accurately regarding JBoss in general. I was quite heartened to see Greg Wilkins (proud parent of Jetty) point out the evils of JBoss, and the exact nature of the beast that we’re dealing with. What I find amazing is how a group of people who are supposedly champions of open source can be so astoundingly incompetent at projecting a good image. I mean, in the open source world, you could quite literally drop turds into people’s mouths and they’d still be singing your praises. It takes a very special kind of dedication to manage to generate such bad karma. Yet the JBoss group somehow manages it, time after time. At least with companies like SCO, they’re making money off their little antics, so more power to them. One has to wonder what the JBoss group gets out of their shenanigans, because surely the Fleury clan, with its diabolical schemes and machinations can’t be as….well….stupid, as they appear.
Kudos to Sideshow Bob for what must surely be one of the funniest comments on my ‘Die petstores die’ rant. I spoke with Joe Walnes (author of THAT book) shortly after, and he washes his hands of the whole petsoar name/idea and said that his suggestions for different kinds of stores were promptly rejected, so now the blame shifts onto at least one of the other three culprits.
Next up we have MOMs and the joys they seem to bring all and sundry. Some comments seem to imply that these ludicrous message buses automatically buy you transactional integrity. I suggest you actually try out some of these systems and see how well this works in real life. If it does work, I challenge you to try and pump through more than a few piddly messages per second with proper tx support on. I’d also like to clarify that I was NOT advocating end of day file transfers instead of real time messaging. I’m just disgusted and saddened by purchasing message buses that can feed a few small African nations for 2 years and using THOSE for nothing more than end of day batch messages.
Another disturbing trend in comments is that the anonymous cowards seem to be becoming the norm. Mind you, that’s probably not as disturbing as the surprising number of comments involving punching some sort of clown (or urges to do so) for reasons unknown. It is a mystery to me though why Jakarta lovers post anonymously. I can understand anonymous postings for negative stuff since people don’t want their employer/friends/lovers to see the raw naked hatred festering within. I mean really, Mr jakarta-primitives website with (unhelpful) pointers about anchors in jakarta download pages…are you that ashamed of the object of your affection? Still, nice to see the ever-popular ‘why don’t you shut up and submit a patch then!’ suggestion hurled about. Stupid bastards.
Finally, regarding Swing. It’s somewhat amazing how many people completely missed the point. First there’s the hilarious suggestion to use xwork (believe it or not Jason, xwork is not the answer to every framework/design question). Also, I was NOT asking about ways to draw pretty pictures, so the suggestion to use various IDE’s were also not helpful. Finally to Kevin Duffy, which your project looks interesting, I still fail to see why it’s a foundation for Swing. Not every application requires plugins (and from what I can see, that’s all your framework provides currently…a very clever and intricate plugin system). Certainly, not every application should have the concept of perspectives or other such eclipsisms. Thanks to Rickard for sending me his BeanConnector though, which very elegantly handles the problem of wiring up various swing components to models. For the curious, you can get a hold of it in the beanutils package in osworkflow’s designer on java.net (along with a very slimmed down no-deps version of commons-beanutils).
December 8th, 2003 at 9:32 am
Thank you for the review, but what ever happened to the village idiot award???
December 8th, 2003 at 9:59 am
I resent all the anonymous posters. I am the original anonymous poster. I resigned my crown to allow another industrious soul to pick it up and wear it proudly, yet anonymously. It bothers me that you clods think you can post anonymously, willy-nilly, helter skelter style. DO IT WITH PRIDE. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE ANONYMOUS.
December 8th, 2003 at 10:22 am
Hear, hear!
December 8th, 2003 at 10:31 am
I proudly accept this month’s village idiot award. Thank you all for your support.
December 8th, 2003 at 12:38 pm
Give the award to Clown Puncher. Dont know what he’s got against us clowns anyway.
December 10th, 2003 at 4:52 pm
The Sideshow Bob remark “die petstore die” == german(”the petstore the”) was imported (or inlined?) from The Simpsons.
December 11th, 2003 at 11:10 am
Hani,
If you’re bothered by all the anonymous postings, why not submit a patch to JRoller that forces all commentors to specify a name?
Love,
Anonymous
December 14th, 2003 at 5:52 am
I tried to go look at java.net for the BeanConnector but nothing in the src of osworkflow designer - could you post a more specific url or something ? ;)