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		<title>By: Luci Sandor</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>Luci Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laugh it up....FOAF is about to be implemented on Roller. - http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/roller/roller/src/org/roller/presentation/velocity/FoafServlet.java</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laugh it up&#8230;.FOAF is about to be implemented on Roller. &#8211; <a href="http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/roller/roller/src/org/roller/presentation/velocity/FoafServlet.java" rel="nofollow">http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/roller/roller/src/org/roller/presentation/velocity/FoafServlet.java</a></p>
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		<title>By: TX</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww... c&#039;mon man, put the &lt;abbr&gt; tags in for FOAD.  I need something to keep me snickering at work. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww&#8230; c&#8217;mon man, put the <abbr> tags in for FOAD.  I need something to keep me snickering at work. :-(</abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Billl</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Billl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooo Hooo! If only FOAF had been around a while the whole mideast problem would have been solved or avoided. World peace is certain now. Hani, how in the hell can you say FOAF is dumb now?

Perhaps you should crown this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooo Hooo! If only FOAF had been around a while the whole mideast problem would have been solved or avoided. World peace is certain now. Hani, how in the hell can you say FOAF is dumb now?</p>
<p>Perhaps you should crown this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Purdy</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5887</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Purdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now ... there&#039;s no reason to spew bile here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now &#8230; there&#8217;s no reason to spew bile here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5886</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogging IS lame - have you read the bileblog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogging IS lame &#8211; have you read the bileblog?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5885</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2003 07:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The point of that is...&quot; 
In talking about being socially dysfunctional etc you are entirely missing the point - this is about using machines to create and enhance channels of communication automatically. Augmenting human capabilities in this way could potentially help social disasters like the situation in the Middle East or the US electoral system. 

Back in the immediate environment, an example of the point would be, for example, if I find someone&#039;s blog interesting my client will be able to follow through their FOAF file to find other blogs that are likely to interest me. Or if I know in advance that a blog only contains negative write-ups, I may not want it in my blogroll. 

Anyhow, whether you like it or not, this stuff has already come out of geekland, with automatic support for FOAF being provided in TypePad. Have you done the &quot;blogging is lame&quot; post yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The point of that is&#8230;&#8221;<br />
In talking about being socially dysfunctional etc you are entirely missing the point &#8211; this is about using machines to create and enhance channels of communication automatically. Augmenting human capabilities in this way could potentially help social disasters like the situation in the Middle East or the US electoral system. </p>
<p>Back in the immediate environment, an example of the point would be, for example, if I find someone&#8217;s blog interesting my client will be able to follow through their FOAF file to find other blogs that are likely to interest me. Or if I know in advance that a blog only contains negative write-ups, I may not want it in my blogroll. </p>
<p>Anyhow, whether you like it or not, this stuff has already come out of geekland, with automatic support for FOAF being provided in TypePad. Have you done the &#8220;blogging is lame&#8221; post yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Billl</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Billl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. Why contribute to idiocy? No matter what brain power gets thrown at it it&#039;s still idiocy.

Are is the typical liberal dogma of intentions matter, not results or substance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. Why contribute to idiocy? No matter what brain power gets thrown at it it&#8217;s still idiocy.</p>
<p>Are is the typical liberal dogma of intentions matter, not results or substance?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kearney</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5883</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, why bother contributing when you can just make a negative rant, right?

Everything&#039;s got it&#039;s place.  That you don&#039;t see yourself using Foaf is obvious.  Fortunately others do.  

We all have our places to contribute.  That you prefer they go about it planting, protesting, preaching and such is fine.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a fair number of folks that think those ideas are rather daft.  

Who&#039;s wrong?  Does it matter?  No, not at all.  But it&#039;s all the fashion these days to say something stinks instead of helping out.

Here&#039;s a thought, if the efforts you&#039;re espousing now aren&#039;t reaching people how is adding a new style, using online and XML tools, a problem?  It&#039;s not.  

The more the merrier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, why bother contributing when you can just make a negative rant, right?</p>
<p>Everything&#8217;s got it&#8217;s place.  That you don&#8217;t see yourself using Foaf is obvious.  Fortunately others do.  </p>
<p>We all have our places to contribute.  That you prefer they go about it planting, protesting, preaching and such is fine.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a fair number of folks that think those ideas are rather daft.  </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s wrong?  Does it matter?  No, not at all.  But it&#8217;s all the fashion these days to say something stinks instead of helping out.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought, if the efforts you&#8217;re espousing now aren&#8217;t reaching people how is adding a new style, using online and XML tools, a problem?  It&#8217;s not.  </p>
<p>The more the merrier.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill K</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5882</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hani, FOAF is an RDF thing, not an XML thing. I suppose that&#039;s not an important distinction for your purposes here; but you really should have a look at RDF some time -- it&#039;s a delightful &quot;solution desperately seeking a problem&quot;, and I&#039;m sure you could write a marvellous BileBlog entry about it.

I figure the primary purpose of FOAF is to get people to supply test data for RDF tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hani, FOAF is an RDF thing, not an XML thing. I suppose that&#8217;s not an important distinction for your purposes here; but you really should have a look at RDF some time &#8212; it&#8217;s a delightful &#8220;solution desperately seeking a problem&#8221;, and I&#8217;m sure you could write a marvellous BileBlog entry about it.</p>
<p>I figure the primary purpose of FOAF is to get people to supply test data for RDF tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this is a good use of XML... it is just a bit of data after all, and I assume there is a nice little DTD too (can&#039;t be bothered to look into FOAF... sounds a bit naff).

I can think of far worse uses for XML... like trying to turn it into a scripting language (ie. Jelly, or dare I say it, Ant even), or other similar such absurdities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is a good use of XML&#8230; it is just a bit of data after all, and I assume there is a nice little DTD too (can&#8217;t be bothered to look into FOAF&#8230; sounds a bit naff).</p>
<p>I can think of far worse uses for XML&#8230; like trying to turn it into a scripting language (ie. Jelly, or dare I say it, Ant even), or other similar such absurdities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Mihalache</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5880</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Mihalache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like you! You&#039;re my friend Hani!
Oh... you also like Java too?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like you! You&#8217;re my friend Hani!<br />
Oh&#8230; you also like Java too?!</p>
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		<title>By: malcolm edgar</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5879</link>
		<dc:creator>malcolm edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know of a FOAF plugin I can use in Eclipse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know of a FOAF plugin I can use in Eclipse.</p>
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		<title>By: lowem</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5878</link>
		<dc:creator>lowem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for &quot;privacy concerns&quot;. Spammers are always welcome to spam-me@mailinator.com though .. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for &#8220;privacy concerns&#8221;. Spammers are always welcome to <a href="mailto:spam-me@mailinator.com">spam-me@mailinator.com</a> though .. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Gerald Bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5877</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake Gerald Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Bastard Hani, I love FOAF. Thru it I&#039;ll recruit the thousands of millions of the Java Cartel Process (TM) and Sun will have to listen to us ya know. Fuck you I won&#039;t do what ya told Sun. No way... you gotta know your enemy and it&#039;s Sun, you bastars, hhaaaahhh! haaaahhh! There&#039;ll come a day when someone besides me will start posting on my foruns and we&#039;ll kick Sun&#039;s but! Allow me to provide a link to my pretty good looking website where you&#039;ll find some insightful discussions between myself and I: http://viva.sourceforge.net

Btw... swing sux, Viva XUL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Bastard Hani, I love FOAF. Thru it I&#8217;ll recruit the thousands of millions of the Java Cartel Process (TM) and Sun will have to listen to us ya know. Fuck you I won&#8217;t do what ya told Sun. No way&#8230; you gotta know your enemy and it&#8217;s Sun, you bastars, hhaaaahhh! haaaahhh! There&#8217;ll come a day when someone besides me will start posting on my foruns and we&#8217;ll kick Sun&#8217;s but! Allow me to provide a link to my pretty good looking website where you&#8217;ll find some insightful discussions between myself and I: <a href="http://viva.sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">http://viva.sourceforge.net</a></p>
<p>Btw&#8230; swing sux, Viva XUL!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5876</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erk. Managed to hit post before I finished my paragraph. Never post before the first cup of tea. The last comment was supposed to end:

... But now you&#039;ve gone and used up the joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erk. Managed to hit post before I finished my paragraph. Never post before the first cup of tea. The last comment was supposed to end:</p>
<p>&#8230; But now you&#8217;ve gone and used up the joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5875</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, look how popular Friendster is. People lap this sort of thing up.

I was thinking of coming up with a competing standard, and calling it FOAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, look how popular Friendster is. People lap this sort of thing up.</p>
<p>I was thinking of coming up with a competing standard, and calling it FOAD.</p>
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		<title>By: the dude</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5874</link>
		<dc:creator>the dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;are you serious. people seriously 
&gt;do this kinda stuff? wow..

come on...

are you serious. people seriously read that kind of blogs? wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>are you serious. people seriously<br />
>do this kinda stuff? wow..</p>
<p>come on&#8230;</p>
<p>are you serious. people seriously read that kind of blogs? wow.</p>
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		<title>By: chiara</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5873</link>
		<dc:creator>chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you serious. people seriously do this kinda stuff? wow..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you serious. people seriously do this kinda stuff? wow..</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5872</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this FOAF crap spun off from RDF stuff as far as I can determine, whose usefulness has yet to be demonstrated to me in any great depth. The two biggest uses of RDF data is the later version of RSS files (which to be honest were just shoehorned into RDF format as they &#039;kind of did the same thing&#039;) and FOAF. The only legitimate use of FOAF I can see would be perhaps in geneology circles, or perhaps in the behind the scenes storage for sites like friends reunited or something. As for geeks carrying their FOAF around as proof they have (at least imaginary) friends? Well I guess everntually it&#039;ll make playing the 6 degrees of kevin bacon (http://www.geocities.com/theeac/bacon.html) easier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this FOAF crap spun off from RDF stuff as far as I can determine, whose usefulness has yet to be demonstrated to me in any great depth. The two biggest uses of RDF data is the later version of RSS files (which to be honest were just shoehorned into RDF format as they &#8216;kind of did the same thing&#8217;) and FOAF. The only legitimate use of FOAF I can see would be perhaps in geneology circles, or perhaps in the behind the scenes storage for sites like friends reunited or something. As for geeks carrying their FOAF around as proof they have (at least imaginary) friends? Well I guess everntually it&#8217;ll make playing the 6 degrees of kevin bacon (<a href="http://www.geocities.com/theeac/bacon.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/theeac/bacon.html</a>) easier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: terminus</title>
		<link>http://www.bileblog.org/2003/09/foaf-can-foad/comment-page-1/#comment-5871</link>
		<dc:creator>terminus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one.</p>
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